Comments on Introducing Xenki, An Open Source App That Runs Second Life (And Open Sim) In A Web BrowserTypePad2008-08-08T06:42:08ZSLHamlethttps://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2008/08/introducing-xen/comments/atom.xml/John Branch commented on 'Introducing Xenki, An Open Source App That Runs Second Life (And Open Sim) In A Web Browser'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e553d9679788332008-08-09T16:25:15Z2008-08-09T16:25:16ZJohn Branchhttp://profile.typekey.com/JEBinNYC54/I have a reason for wanting to visit SL within a web browser: on my work computer I'm not allowed...<p>I have a reason for wanting to visit SL within a web browser: on my work computer I'm not allowed to install any apps, but there are slow times around the office when I might want to drop in to SL using a browser. Surely I'm not the only person in this position.</p>Sean McDunnough commented on 'Introducing Xenki, An Open Source App That Runs Second Life (And Open Sim) In A Web Browser'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e553f24d5588342008-08-08T16:06:05Z2008-08-08T16:06:05ZSean McDunnoughhttp://seanfitzgerald.wordpress.com/Hamlet, from my reading, that screenshot is misleading, as it's not Adam Frisby's Xenki, as the title of your post...<p>Hamlet, from my reading, that screenshot is misleading, as it's not Adam Frisby's Xenki, as the title of your post implies. It's Darren Guard's project based on Xenki, which is a very different beast as it still requires the full client to be launched, whereas Adam Frisby is trying to get a browser-only viewer happening. This seems a much more challenging task, as the screenshot at the top of the UgoTrade post - which is of Xenki - shows. </p>Hal commented on 'Introducing Xenki, An Open Source App That Runs Second Life (And Open Sim) In A Web Browser'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e553d6555988332008-08-08T13:09:23Z2008-08-08T13:09:23ZHalDon't have time to download a client? Do you think a browser plugin that runs a virtual world will be...<p>Don't have time to download a client? Do you think a browser plugin that runs a virtual world will be any less burdensome than a separate client? If the browser is displaying anything other than a video stream from SL, ie: actually rendering the VW, then the protocols and subsystems it will use are the same as a standalone client and therefore will have to be downloaded and installed into the browser and OS. </p>
<p>Philip Linden referred to this in that infamous recent interview - their idea is to use browsers as the Trojan horse to get the client installed, making it seems like no more than another web-plugin. </p>
<p>Actually running the client from inside the browser window is a silly kludge meant to make the whole thing seem less threatening. There currently is really NO promise of greater functionality or interoperability. It's a stealth manoeuvre to increase the installed user-base - and one primarily aimed at the clueless.</p>Dusan Writer commented on 'Introducing Xenki, An Open Source App That Runs Second Life (And Open Sim) In A Web Browser'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e553f1dd1b88342008-08-08T12:38:36Z2008-08-08T12:38:36ZDusan Writerhttp://dusanwriter.comThis is a significant development. The technical protocols strike me as worrisome although like you way above my pay grade....<p>This is a significant development. The technical protocols strike me as worrisome although like you way above my pay grade. This is important stuff not so much because we need to rush to a web browser, as Hal says, but because it opens up a new level of accessibility to parts of the world where bandwidth might be a bit more of an issue, and because it solves some technical challenges that are useful in other ways as well. </p>
<p>The idea of being to attend an in-world event, for example, if you've never been in SL before and don't have time to download a client or whatever - think schools or entertainment. I understand they're also looking at "ghosting" attendance much as Lively does when a room is full - to cut back on render costs and to increase concurrency, allow people to view events but not be seen....although I find it extremely disconcerting to the idea of a 'world' when your avatar doesn't appear.</p>
<p>I take exception to the tone, however, Hamlet of "far more than 1000 words" it seems to imply things that there's a gap between those who are wordy but concise (like Tarah5) and those who are simply concise. :P</p>
<p>Oh - and of course as you know Darren Guard is presenting Xenki at Metanomics this coming Tuesday following announcement of the UI contest winners.</p>Hal commented on 'Introducing Xenki, An Open Source App That Runs Second Life (And Open Sim) In A Web Browser'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e553f1c93c88342008-08-08T11:22:07Z2008-08-08T11:22:07ZHalWho are these people? The ones that want to do EVERYTHING from inside a web browser - are they retarded...<p>Who are these people? The ones that want to do EVERYTHING from inside a web browser - are they retarded in some way? Do they buy a computer only to use a web browser, oblivious to everything else it can do?</p>
<p>What is this headlong rush into web browsers supposed to achieve - other than lousy performance? Talk about the Emperors new clothes...<br />
</p>Tinsel Silvera commented on 'Introducing Xenki, An Open Source App That Runs Second Life (And Open Sim) In A Web Browser'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e553d5db8d88332008-08-08T07:42:24Z2008-08-08T07:42:24ZTinsel Silverahttp://www.tinselsilvera.comThis is wonderful news! I can't wait until its available for the masses. I successfully teleported from the Linden Lab...<p>This is wonderful news! I can't wait until its available for the masses. I successfully teleported from the Linden Lab Open Grid to a participating External grid earlier tonight. And now this? Truly this is a day to mark on the calendars. There is no limit to where we can go and what we can do. Puts a whole new spin on "Our World Our Imagination."</p>