Comments on Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for KitelyTypePad2013-11-08T19:29:38ZSLHamlethttps://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2013/11/hosoi-ichiba-leaves-second-life-for-kitely/comments/atom.xml/Carlos Loff commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef01a3fb5d854c970b2013-12-30T13:04:34Z2013-12-30T13:04:34ZCarlos LoffI was very sad after a long history as world and content creator, always had to give up my lands...<p>I was very sad after a long history as world and content creator, always had to give up my lands - Yesterday I discovered Kitely and less than 10h later Im happy building a 4 Islands World (full sims) for only 40$ per month - Everything works like on SL so I dont have to learn any single trick using Firestorm Viewer - Uploading textures is free, worlds are faster and what else can I say ??? DONT THINK TWICE - JUST DONT - Migrate to Kitely Now - Today - The ONLY challenge is the lack of goods for sale so CREATORS - Go there and make money - I need to buy stuff I cant build</p>Minethere Always commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b017bb3b0970b2013-11-22T16:30:56Z2013-11-22T16:30:56ZMinethere Alwayshttp://minethere.blogspot.com/2012/10/region-creations.htmlI was just following entry stats to my own blog back here, read the latest comments, and just thought it...<p>I was just following entry stats to my own blog back here, read the latest comments, and just thought it would be useful to help answer some Kitely MP questions by providing this link.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.kitely.com/virtual-world-news/2013/10/05/the-content-liberation-front/" rel="nofollow">http://www.kitely.com/virtual-world-news/2013/10/05/the-content-liberation-front/</a></p>Baal commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b0149913b970d2013-11-18T15:46:07Z2013-11-18T15:46:07ZBaalNo matter how big a wall is , or how many the bricks within it, when the foundations start to...<p>No matter how big a wall is , or how many the bricks within it, when the foundations start to crumble it is doomed, or at lest damaged beyond repair. I think so many people in SL do not understand that it is a visual experience. No? then it is nothing more than a failed chat room. when the beauty starts to slip away you will be left with an expensive lego land of happy sexual day trippers.</p>Masami commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b0145b365970b2013-11-18T09:07:42Z2013-11-18T09:07:42ZMasami@pussycat Unmetered Kitely regions are $40/month and were introduced more than a year ago.<p>@pussycat</p>
<p>Unmetered Kitely regions are $40/month and were introduced more than a year ago.</p>iisingh commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b0126b5ba970d2013-11-15T22:32:32Z2013-11-15T22:32:32ZiisinghI like toast<p>I like toast</p>Archangel Mortenwold commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b011667c5970b2013-11-14T21:09:06Z2013-11-14T21:09:06ZArchangel MortenwoldWhat I was saying, Emperor Norton, is that with all the real-world expenses people have today, spending money on luxuries...<p>What I was saying, Emperor Norton, is that with all the real-world expenses people have today, spending money on luxuries such as Second Life is simply untenable. When the economy was in marginally better shape, one could run a region effectively enough that it paid for itself -- literally. That's no longer the case. The real-world income people used to spend in SL simply is no longer there.</p>Emperor Norton commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b0105ad97970c2013-11-13T12:37:10Z2013-11-13T12:37:10ZEmperor Norton@ " People can't afford to spend hundreds of dollars a month on a virtual space when they have to...<p>@ " People can't afford to spend hundreds of dollars a month on a virtual space when they have to choose between buying private health insurance under penalty of law and buying food with which to feed themselves and their families" Archangel</p>
<p>Excellent reasoning Archangel; my health insurance is to high so my solution is to kill off my business and source of income. What is it called "Going Gaultard?" </p>zzpearlbottom commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b0104f49e970c2013-11-13T11:04:35Z2013-11-13T11:04:35ZzzpearlbottomI real don't belong here, My Sl is nothing like this one any keep posting here, it is a full...<p> I real don't belong here, My Sl is nothing like this one any keep posting here, it is a full vibrant alive and always amazing one!<br />
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</p>Archangel Mortenwold commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00fe8b42970b2013-11-12T20:59:18Z2013-11-12T20:59:18ZArchangel Mortenwold@Pussycat Catnap - You're correct about the Marketplace killing any and all need for in-world presence. That Linden Lab decided...<p>@Pussycat Catnap -</p>
<p>You're correct about the Marketplace killing any and all need for in-world presence. That Linden Lab decided to kill the Magic Boxes is just another example of bad decision-making in business. Why shell out money for virtual land, even if only to keep a Magic Box that no longer works, when you can just build in a sandbox and upload the finished package directly to the Marketplace web site?</p>
<p>One solution would be to provide a significant discount to Marketplace sellers who maintain a comparable in-world presence. The more land they buy, the deeper the discount, so that in the end both Linden Lab and Marketplace retailers bring in money enough to make a profit. It would make sense from a business point of view, but then, when was the last time Linden Lab did anything that makes such sense?</p>Archangel Mortenwold commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00fec5d6970d2013-11-12T20:50:15Z2013-11-12T20:50:15ZArchangel MortenwoldMore regions lost no thanks to Linden Lab's poor decision-making. The economy is in the toilet with no sign of...<p>More regions lost no thanks to Linden Lab's poor decision-making. The economy is in the toilet with no sign of recovery. People can't afford to spend hundreds of dollars a month on a virtual space when they have to choose between buying private health insurance under penalty of law and buying food with which to feed themselves and their families. It is simply stupid for Linden Lab to keep prices this high.</p>
<p>To the person who implied that it was foolish to take the money people put into the regions and put it right back into them, that is standard business practice. If you want your business to grow, you take your earnings and reinvest in the business. Money can't be saved when the amount paid by visitors keeps declining because their real-world incomes keep declining. The simple, unpleasant truth is that Linden Lab is gradually pricing itself out of business, and doesn't even have sense enough to care.</p>Pussycat Catnap commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00fc8a0a970c2013-11-12T16:46:12Z2013-11-12T16:46:12ZPussycat Catnaphttp://catnapkitty.wordpress.com@Madeliefste: Heh. Oops. And here in lies the worst rub for us users of SL with the Marketplace. A merchant...<p>@Madeliefste:</p>
<p>Heh. Oops.</p>
<p>And here in lies the worst rub for us users of SL with the Marketplace. A merchant who formerly was a great contributor to the community, with a series of beautiful places to visit. Is now just a leeching parasite - taking but not contributing.</p>
<p>Because there is no longer any need to have or even rent land for a shop.</p>
<p>For about a year now I've noticed the most interesting place in SL is my SL Home. I suspect this will get more and more true for more and more people. Nowhere to go but your own Barbie Doll house.</p>
<p>That's fine - nothing wrong with playing with dolls. Kind of relaxing actually to play dress up and pose about.</p>
<p>But its not going to be much of a shared world given that.<br />
</p>zzpearlbottom commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00fa8ae7970b2013-11-12T11:49:29Z2013-11-12T11:49:29Zzzpearlbottomin all i wander, in all i found joy, friends in a few even the freedom of being a God!...<p> in all i wander, in all i found joy, friends in a few even the freedom of being a God!<br />
In the end i return, to Hell where i truly belong!</p>Madeliefste Oh commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00f73af2970d2013-11-12T03:26:24Z2013-11-12T03:26:24ZMadeliefste OhWhat do you mean with 'entirely left Second Life'? With still more then 500 items on the SL Marketplace someone...<p>What do you mean with 'entirely left Second Life'? With still more then 500 items on the SL Marketplace someone has not left entirly. </p>Pussycat Catnap commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00f4fa61970c2013-11-11T23:28:05Z2013-11-11T23:28:05ZPussycat Catnaphttp://catnapkitty.wordpress.com@Graham Mills: Thanks for that tidbit. If V3 works for one it likely works for the others. Hopefully that won't...<p>@Graham Mills: Thanks for that tidbit. If V3 works for one it likely works for the others. Hopefully that won't change as SL forks one way and Open Sim another.</p>Val kendal commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00f48913970c2013-11-11T22:33:55Z2013-11-11T22:33:55ZVal kendaland they were gorgeous sims, explored by many, used in many ads and photographs. Another sad loss of beauty in...<p>and they were gorgeous sims, explored by many, used in many ads and photographs. Another sad loss of beauty in our world.</p>Graham Mills commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00f4de90970d2013-11-11T22:22:18Z2013-11-11T22:22:18ZGraham MillsThat's for Kitely -- can't speak to Inwz<p>That's for Kitely -- can't speak to Inwz</p>Graham Mills commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00f47f6e970b2013-11-11T22:20:21Z2013-11-11T22:20:21ZGraham MillsNo problem with v3 though there is an OpenSim-specific Firestorm edition. Others recommend Singularity though I prefer Kokua.<p>No problem with v3 though there is an OpenSim-specific Firestorm edition. Others recommend Singularity though I prefer Kokua.</p>pussycat catnap commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00f1c909970b2013-11-11T16:46:00Z2013-11-11T16:46:00Zpussycat catnaphttp://catnapkitty.wordpress.comMy only problem with this is that again, we're left with a split choice between SL, InWorldz, Kitely, and Cloud...<p>My only problem with this is that again, we're left with a split choice between SL, InWorldz, Kitely, and Cloud Party.</p>
<p>So as users... we have to wonder where to go...</p>
<p>I don't see myself jumping until one of them can top 10,000 concurrency - and in so stating recognize that I am contributing to the problem of them not topping said concurrency.</p>
<p>But I might dabble here and there. Though Kitely being on a metered clock pay system gives me pause. Its a pay model I don't like at any price (I may pay over $100/mo to SL, but its not on a pay-for-time so it bothers me less than even putting quarters in a parking meter does).</p>
<p>ps: Can I use a V3-based viewer in either Kitely or InWorldz? I know some of you hate that UI, fine. But I love it - and its another thing holding me back from trying these things out.<br />
</p>2103 commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00f0ea39970b2013-11-11T14:52:28Z2013-11-11T14:52:28Z2103Looks like a bad business model to me, saved no money, then recession hit and caught them off guard. I'm...<p>Looks like a bad business model to me, saved no money, then recession hit and caught them off guard. </p>
<p>I'm sure the "tier is to high" party will say different.</p>Emperor Norton commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00f0b051970d2013-11-11T13:38:34Z2013-11-11T13:38:34ZEmperor Norton"Hosoi Ichiba earned about $4000 USD/month and every dime flooded back in the project." ROFL and no one can see...<p>"Hosoi Ichiba earned about $4000 USD/month and every dime flooded back in the project."</p>
<p>ROFL and no one can see what is basically wrong with Second life now? </p>Oink commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00e79754970c2013-11-10T18:40:58Z2013-11-10T18:40:58ZOinkFirst comes Concurrent Users (customer satisfaction) and the Use Case, then comes the Tool (platform satisfaction is not the point)...<p>First comes Concurrent Users (customer satisfaction) and the Use Case, then comes the Tool (platform satisfaction is not the point) > Tools are exchangeable...</p>VirtualMediaDev commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00d9b853970c2013-11-09T09:56:06Z2013-11-09T09:56:09ZVirtualMediaDevhttp://profile.typepad.com/virtualmediadevThe Hosoi Mura resions were wonderful to visit and explore everywhere had hidden details were presented in stark simplicity that...<p>The Hosoi Mura resions were wonderful to visit and <br />
explore everywhere had hidden details were presented in stark simplicity that made you feel the environment so much more.I think one of the feature's that convinced me this was a designer that liked to create a challenge was the three overpasses. How does a designer express multi-level intersecting paths which are seen in modern cities with bridges over highways and sidewalks. The designer did this in a rural agricultural area, that was simply perfect. </p>Graham Mills commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00d970f0970b2013-11-09T09:02:59Z2013-11-09T09:02:59ZGraham MillsThe Hosoi Mura regions are already open on Kitely, albeit not fully built-out. Stuff to buy is on the Kitely...<p>The Hosoi Mura regions are already open on Kitely, albeit not fully built-out. Stuff to buy is on the Kitely Market which is a very smooth operation; many (all?) of the items have the option to buy for Export which is important on OpenSim grids IMO. As you say, all-in-all, very nice.</p>Minethere Always commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00d8b4dd970d2013-11-09T06:52:58Z2013-11-09T06:52:58ZMinethere Alwayshttp://minethere.blogspot.com/2012/10/region-creations.htmlThis is actually a very smart move for content creators. I expect others will expand on that soon here.<p>This is actually a very smart move for content creators.</p>
<p>I expect others will expand on that soon here.</p>Ooopsie Doodle commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00d6e6f7970c2013-11-09T03:43:58Z2013-11-09T03:43:58ZOoopsie DoodleIsn't she the one who has rage-quit SL about 8 times in the last 6 years? Glad to see she's...<p>Isn't she the one who has rage-quit SL about 8 times in the last 6 years? Glad to see she's starting over somewhere else.</p>
<p>At least until the next rage-quit.</p>Informer commented on 'Japanese-Themed Hosoi Ichiba Sims Leave SL for Kitely'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef019b00d4cf88970c2013-11-08T23:19:10Z2013-11-08T23:19:10ZInformerDROP TIER PRICES BEFORE NOTHING IS LEFT! How many times do they have to be told and how many times...<p>DROP TIER PRICES BEFORE NOTHING IS LEFT! How many times do they have to be told and how many times are they going to ignore the obvious?</p>