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Friday, July 27, 2018

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Nalates Urriah

What about the 2.7 million American children separated from their parents?

Hamlet Au

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument, which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda. When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union during the Cold War, the Soviet response would often be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.

Masami Kuramoto

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children

"Think of the children" (also "What about the children?") is a cliché that evolved into a rhetorical tactic. Literally it refers to children's rights (as in discussions of child labor). In debate, however, it is a plea for pity that is used as an appeal to emotion, and therefore it becomes a logical fallacy.

metacam oh

What about Bob?

Clara Seller

I just don't see how anyone can plant a flag on any side of this quagmire and claim immunity from hypocrisy.

This horrible situation has come from so much willful blindness, disregard for consequence, and a complete blurring of any legal line that might have once existed. It's a stew of contradiction.

Cajsa

Whataboutism is seldom so literal. However, let's pretend for a moment that you have given a second's thought to those 2.7 million children with an incarcerated parent other than as a deflection from Trump's crimes against humanity and address key differences that make these bad faith deflection dishonest.

1. They were not taken away to who-knows-where in an attempt to inflict emotional pain and terror.
2. The parent had time between indictment, conviction, and incarceration to arrange custodial care for their children with family members.
3. A significant number of those children are still with one parent while the other parent is in prison.
4. They are allowed to visit the parent who is imprisoned.

There is no comparison, but then your argument was never intended to be honest.

Cajsa

Masami,

Think about the children is hardly a cliche when it literally involves children.

Crystal Firelight

They should be kept together and deported as a family; TOGETHER. Out. Out. Out. It's the only fair way. Maybe their illegal parents shouldn't be dragging them here in the first place. Something to chew on.

Also 4.1 percent GDP. Winning.

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