Comments on Lauk's Lament: Have Real World Corporations Fundamentally Eroded Second Life Culture?TypePad2008-02-05T06:48:37ZSLHamlethttps://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2008/02/lauks-lament-ha/comments/atom.xml/Ignatius Onomatopoeia commented on 'Lauk's Lament: Have Real World Corporations Fundamentally Eroded Second Life Culture?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e55031032d88342008-02-07T16:55:40Z2008-02-07T16:55:40ZIgnatius Onomatopoeiahttp://slbeat.mytimesdispatch.comI don't fear the corporatizing of SL. Right now, they have a tough enough time REMAINING in-world at all. I...<p>I don't fear the corporatizing of SL.</p>
<p>Right now, they have a tough enough time REMAINING in-world at all. I was surprised that the departure of Pontiac's Motorati did not make NWN (or did I miss that?).</p>
<p>If anything in-world does stifle creativity, it's the expense of land prices and associated fees. I don't have 3000 RL bucks to buy an island or the cash handy to pay the fees.</p>
<p>Without our university's island, I'd be living in a cardboard box with the hobos (themselves a great part of SL's cultural creatives).</p>Mikyo commented on 'Lauk's Lament: Have Real World Corporations Fundamentally Eroded Second Life Culture?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e5501b8b5f88332008-02-07T03:25:40Z2008-02-07T03:25:41ZMikyohttp://profile.typekey.com/Mikyo/Terrorist drills? LOL. Hand me that Holy Sword, comrade, i see an orc. But seriously folks, have you seen those...<p>Terrorist drills? LOL. Hand me that Holy Sword, comrade, i see an orc. But seriously folks, have you seen those terrorists hiding in the closet? And the one under the bed? Maybe we should postpone this next election, just to be safe. </p>Jaymin Carthage commented on 'Lauk's Lament: Have Real World Corporations Fundamentally Eroded Second Life Culture?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e5502e0fee88342008-02-06T18:27:23Z2008-02-06T18:27:23ZJaymin Carthagehttp://www-03.ibm.com/developerworks/blogs/page/roivw?entry=counting_today_s_protestKind of funny. Your earlier coverage of Svarga lead me to work on populating the IBM Sandbox with various critters....<p>Kind of funny. Your earlier coverage of Svarga lead me to work on populating the IBM Sandbox with various critters. (Mostly flying fish.) Last night I was there working on a tree that is planted, grows, propagates and eventually dies. <br />
I think she is too caught up in her own doomsaying to realize that it's not just that the Corporates have an effect on Second Life, but that Second Life also has an effect on Corporates. It's just another ecosystem where all participants affect each other.<br />
Why else would the IBM Sandbox Fish sing Frank Sinatra? :-)</p>JSnark commented on 'Lauk's Lament: Have Real World Corporations Fundamentally Eroded Second Life Culture?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e55017f28b88332008-02-06T05:41:40Z2008-02-06T05:41:40ZJSnarkhttp://www.lasnark.com/im-a-second-life-voyeurI just went to the beach and there am I on a towel with naked people.<p>I just went to the beach and there am I on a towel with naked people.</p>Sophrosyne Stenvaag commented on 'Lauk's Lament: Have Real World Corporations Fundamentally Eroded Second Life Culture?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e5502c2a2488342008-02-06T00:48:05Z2008-02-06T00:48:05ZSophrosyne Stenvaaghttp://sophrosyne_sl.livejournal.comLauk's right as to the trend, but I don't share her conclusion that all is lost. There definitely is a...<p>Lauk's right as to the trend, but I don't share her conclusion that all is lost.</p>
<p>There definitely is a War on Imagination, being waged by corporations and lawyers, a denial of the magic circle, an attempt to define Second Life as the atomic world with cartoony graphics. </p>
<p>It's exactly the same sort of imperialism that has sought to stifle creativity, individuality and indigenous culture in every space in the physical world. </p>
<p>As Troy says, our freedoms are far from lost. But they cannot be won without risk, without staying, creating, and standing up for the dignity and autonomy of the synthetic world and of Digital Persons. </p>
<p>Lauk, come to Extropia. We don't have the tiniest fraction of your talent, but we do have the determination to be a haven for creativity in the arts and in identity experimentation. </p>
<p>We're taking a stand, in the name of freedom and in the name of fun, and we welcome all who share our goals to come build and play along with us. </p>Christophe Hugo commented on 'Lauk's Lament: Have Real World Corporations Fundamentally Eroded Second Life Culture?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e55016a30688332008-02-05T18:18:12Z2008-02-05T18:18:12ZChristophe HugoWhat will emerge at some point is the "Napster" of virtual worlds: a 3D platform of the peer-to-peer kind, with...<p>What will emerge at some point is the "Napster" of virtual worlds: a 3D platform of the peer-to-peer kind, with no servers centrally located. This type of underground virtual platforms will remain unregulated for the same reason peer-to-peer web networks are hard to stop: not only will it be virtual, it will also be ubiquitous. <br />
Lauk will probably love those clandestine persistent virtual worlds. And so will those involved in piracy activity (e.g., virtual movie theaters showing movies not even yet released in the RL), ...or terrorists for their drills. Only piece of the puzzle missing: PCs powerful enough to sustain virtual peer-to-peer activities. Let's wait 3 to 4 more years and all this should become more interesting (by that time, it will be probably quite easy to move one's avatar from one virtual world to another).</p>Robbie D commented on 'Lauk's Lament: Have Real World Corporations Fundamentally Eroded Second Life Culture?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e5502b255188342008-02-05T16:20:50Z2008-02-05T16:20:50ZRobbie Dhttp://profile.typekey.com/RobbieD/The answer to Troy's trivia question is 'Gardens', which is about the same time I met Lauk if I remember...<p>The answer to Troy's trivia question is 'Gardens', which is about the same time I met Lauk if I remember rightly? ("Six degrees of separation baby" - [in-joke]).</p>
<p>Funny (and sad) how a negative reaction to a 'social networking' application like, this can ultimately impact upon a freindship.</p>
<p>Maybe see you at the Ferry Lauks...</p>Troy McLuhan commented on 'Lauk's Lament: Have Real World Corporations Fundamentally Eroded Second Life Culture?'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef00e550157fdb88332008-02-05T07:50:05Z2008-02-05T07:50:06ZTroy McLuhanhttp://www.troymcluhan.comI think Lauk would still be happy in SL. The corporate projects are still a very small part of it...<p>I think Lauk would still be happy in SL. The corporate projects are still a very small part of it - they just tend to get covered by the mainstream media. There are many thriving themed communities with no corporate presence.</p>
<p>Even if you want to do a corporate contract and the company wants your real name, you can ask them not to disclose it to the general public. As far as I know, Gwyn has managed to do that all these years.</p>
<p>Okay, now for some fun SL trivia: When the sim Svarga first arrived, Lauk gave people temporary plots in a grid for a competition. What were the competitors supposed to build on those plots?<br />
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