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Tuesday, September 02, 2008


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Tateru Nino

*headscratch* Doesn't that viewer distribution violate the license - or am I mistaken...

It seems to be shipping with components that require a commercial license is all..


Your Quite correct Tateru , to supply the viewer to any other grid besides secondlife requires me to remove the fonts and replace them with opensourced font's, also i cant use LL version of the J2c KDU decompressor so i have to use my own. For trademarks i replace the LL hand with my own icons. For other closed source elements i have to register as a developer with those elements of the viewer that require it like quicktime. And to satisfy GPL i supply the entire build and modified sources at the Download site where i supply the viewer. Thankfully most of the closed source elements like KDU,FMOD are quite ok as long as i dont supply the viewer for finacial gain.

Robustus Hax

Ive tried Kirstens viewer (which, thanks for putting that together btw) and I have a pretty good computer but found right now its really only good for taking static photos. Moving around or taking any meaningful moving movie footage seemed pretty much impossible to me.

Tateru Nino

I thought the voice component was another problematic one. Not that I'm complaining, I'm more curious than anything.

vint falken

Just my two (experience cents):

With the new RC client, I can stay in SL for about 30 minutes and then it's - over - for me, my system almost asking for a reboot. And that's with graphic settings on 'medium'.

Kirstens Viewer runs longer and more smooth, even with shadows rendering on & graphics settings to max (including a 500 meters draw distance). It lasted for 2 hours without crashing.

As for now, I know which one I'll be on most of the time. :D


Actually The Voice component is the least troublesome as it will only work when connected to the SL grid,so theres no problem packing the required Voice components as outside of SL they are completly inoperative which is why they are availaible when downloading the source code :)

Tateru Nino

I understand that slvoice.exe is inoperable except when connected to the SL grid - but as far as I recall, the license does not allow any third party to redistribute the binary. I couldn't send it to you, for example, nor could I send you any file containing it.


Just a snippet from the license file contained within the kirstenviewer, its not an issue to redistribute as long as the viewer maker remebers to include the license file but its well worth mentioning Tateru, useful info for any viewer builders :)

* The Vovida Software License, Version 1.0
* Copyright (c) 2000 Vovida Networks, Inc. All rights reserved.
* Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without
* modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions
* are met:
* 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright
* notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer.
* 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright
* notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in
* the documentation and/or other materials provided with the
* distribution.

Tateru Nino

Hurrah! Somehow I got the notion that there were additional restrictions. I'm really glad to see that's not the case.

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