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Wednesday, April 01, 2009


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Wow...and imagine if we got rid of all the prims, the landscapes, the sky, the sea and those little animated people things...and just had like messages we could send to each other, in an instant kinda way. Wouldn't that be cool?

Uhm, wood...trees... :-)

Rob Danton

What you are suggesting, Hamlet, is a very different prospect from the way that I and most people I know use SL. Facebook connects users specifically through people they already know and the way Second Life is set up with avatar names and not real ones somehow encourages the opposite.

I have a few friends in RL who have got SL avatars and I very very rarely have seen them in world. I think it would cause a cause a huge cultural upheaval to link Second Life directly into Facebook

Without rehearsing the whole immersionist vs augmentationalist debate (actually a false dichotomy I think), part of the magic of SL is the tabula rasa with which we all start.

CyFishy Traveler

There are a few avies out there who already have Facebook pages. Not as their operators, but as their avatars.

Hamlet Au

True that, CyFishy. I also have a lot of Facebook friends who list their SL avatar names along with their RL info.

Mark Young

My guess is that 2D + 3D SL would get a lot more registered users but the proportion that would regularly use fullblown 3D SL would be rather small, just because its more demanding and not casual/quick/easy enough for most websurfers. Still worth doing IMO.

Skinkie Winkler

Have you ever tried Yoville? Mini-SL is it NOT. Not even close.

Nebulosus Severine

Yoville is really boring. :P

Hamlet Au

Yeah, I've checked it out, I don't quite get the appeal myself, but then again, that's true of pretty much 99% of the Facebook apps I've tried.

Nexus Burbclave

I wonder if this isn't a bit like trying to introduce people to apples from the tree by feeding them apple sauce. Sure its made from apples, but the mush and the apple off the tree aren't very similar experiences.

2.5d and 3d worlds are necessarily very different. I don't know that a 2.5d version of SL could really convey the things that make the 3d experience what it is. I worry that a 2.5d SL could potentially turn off some people that would be wowed if their first experience was the 3d version. On the other hand, if the 2.5d version is still compelling that might make it work. Whoever does this would pretty much have to knock it out of the park, or they risk doing more harm than good. I think one of the key learnings from Lively is that you can't count on a second chance to get things right.

Arcadia Codesmith

Frankly I think the OnLive model is much more promising than a 2.5 client. I'm not familiar with Facebook, but if they have streaming media capability, then they could theoretically get the full-flavored SL experience rather than some watered-down version.

The bigger question in my mind is if SL goes mainstream at YoVille levels, what happens to the culture? My suspicion is that the 'adult' apartheid being forcibly shoved down our throats is indicative of Linden ambitions to flow into the mainstream, and that bodes ill for any of our sub-communities that could be profitably sensationalized by the corporate state media.

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