Talking sex and violence with Linden deputy general counsel Kend Linden
Starting next week, you can, if you choose, remove virtual sex from your metaverse reality. Come this Summer (probably June), that choice will be made for you. (Unless, that is, you willingly opt for the wild side.) That's the crux of the news announced today by the Lindens: in brief, an optional release candidate (1.23) viewer software will be put out next week, and will contain filtering tools that allow Residents to block Second Life content according to its designated rating-- PG, Mature, and Adult. A few months from now, making good on announced plans to create a "red light continent" of sexual and extremely violent content (i.e., "Adult" rated), the official viewer will include those tools, too. To see and access Adult content from then on, you'll need to first validate adult status with real world identification, by providing payment information such as a credit card, or via the company's designated age verification company, Aristotle.
In theory, this will yield a Second Life where free expression is encouraged across a diverse spectrum of societies and community standards. The question, of course, is if standards of what's considered PG, Mature, and Adult can be clearly defined in specific cases, and enforced. Is that possible? Yesterday I had an in-world chat with Kend Linden (IRL, Linden deputy general counsel Ken Dreifach), who made his company's case.
Despite that conversation, however, questions remain. For instance, the Lindens declined to provide me with a list of the keywords that will automatically flag events, locations, and other content as Adult in the SL viewer's search interface. "I can tell you that [the company] is taking great care to avoid overzealous filtering," a Linden publicist sought to assure me. Given the enormous number of words that have both an innocent and sexual connotation, however, I'm not as yet convinced. If you're a college professor who plans to give a public Second Life lecture on James Bond novels next Fall, for example, I wouldn't advise putting the words "Pussy Galore" in the event description.
In any event, here's how the Lindens define "Adult" rated content, and examples where these definitions would be applied:
The “ADULT” designation applies to Second Life regions that host conduct or display content that is sexually explicit or intensely violent, or depicts illicit drug use. Any region must be designated “ADULT” and therefore require Account Verification, if it advertises or publicly promotes the following: Representations of intensely violent acts, whether or not photo-realistic, e.g., depicting death, torture, dismemberment or other severe bodily harm; Photo-realistic nudity; Expressly sexually themed content, spaces or activities (whether or not photo-realistic). Groups, event listings and classified ads that reference these themes or content must also be designated ADULT.
Courtesy of the Lindens, screen capture of new release candidate with content filters
"We're trying to use language that's not over-broad," Kend told me. Their theory is that most Residents will self-select Adult content if that's their preference. "PG is going to be almost a special use case used by educators and real world businesses," they believe, while "the vast middle ground" of Second Life will be rated Mature.
This is where it gets interesting, because the Lindens have left allowances there. It will be permissible, for example, to have a risque "burlesque show" in the Mature area. The Lindens specifically cite that example ("Something we thought about a great deal", Kend said) to suggest that it's OK to have suggestive content as long as it's not openly sexual, or actively enable virtual sex, as with sexually animated poseballs.
The same goes for nudity in Mature areas: "If something is merely about nudity," Kend told me, "we're not going to create a rule that's so broad that any depiction or suggestion of nudity... is necessarily Adult."
The Linden rules also make allowances for content which happens to contain sexuality for an overall educational or cultural purpose. So for example, a 3D information kiosk on AIDS prevention could presumably remain in the Mature area. I asked Kend if that exception might include, for instance, a Second Life dramatization of the literary classic Lady Chatterly's Lover. The Adult guidelines, he answered, were "Not intended to cover Lady Chatterly's Lover".
How is violent content defined as being Mature or Adult? "The distinction we're trying to draw is essentially understanding this is all kind of a spectrum," Kend said. "Your basic shoot-em-up gameplay, that's not what we have in mind." Rather, at issure are, "more intensely disturbing violent rooms, you know what they are." I mentioned cyberpunk roleplay areas like Midian and City of Lost Angels, which have some violently sexual aspects, but integrated into a much larger narrative and thematic structure. Will they need to move to the Adult continent? "It's hard to address each one at a time," he said. "Roleplayers that are acting out sexual or intensely violent situations may have to designate as Adult..."
It's inevitable that Residents will file abuse reports against each other, alleging that these guidelines have been violated. Kend told me there will be an appeal channel, for Residents who've been reported. I asked him if they planned to make the process and enforcement process transparent, like a police log. "Might be one way of doing it," he said. "We're waiting and seeing what the best form of dialog is going to be."
However individual cases like these play out, Kend Linden expressed confidence that the Second Life community would come to embrace the guidelines, especially since they were derived from numerous open forums with Residents. "We literally took [their] input and channeled that into the definitions," he said. "We're working on the best ways to keep that discussion going." And in the end, the Lindens believe it's in the interest of Adult content providers to adhere, and migrate to their new continent. "I think the great majority of Adult spaces are going to self-categorize,' he told me. "For the rest of it we're just going to be very careful. We're going to have to be consistent and objective about this." For Second Life users as a whole, Kend Linden said, "the community to its credit... has enough invested in this platform that they follow the rules."
Update, 10:55am: Added screen captures of the new release candidate with content filters, courtesy of the Lindens.
It's all OK, I really tend to be open to the changes as much as possible, but.....
"Shoot 'em up" is ok but nudity is not? Our civilization is seriously deviant then.
Posted by: dandellion Kimban | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 04:29 AM
How does this affect a region where there might be mixed-use or parcel-by-parcel owners/operators? If someone leaves rez-enabled in their otherwise (PG-even!) parcel, and people come by, drop a poseball and do the wild thang, does that entire *region* get tagged as adult, blammo? What's the threshhold, and what's the expected process? What about adult language by your users? What if there's nothing visible on the screen from a prim/texture basis, but the text chat or voice chat is explicit?
Posted by: SeanMcPherson Senior | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 04:54 AM
As things stand, it takes a lot of post-processing to get results such as Connie Sec's amazing work. Given the current quality of the SL avatar shape, could anything but a texture taken from a RL photo be said to be photo-realistic?
Posted by: Melissa Yeuxdoux | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 05:18 AM
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Posted by: Ann Otoole | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 05:28 AM
Well, i totally agree with dandellion, is quite sick if nudity is "adult" and a "Shoot'em up" is not.
A part of this observation i still don't know what will be the diference between Mainland and Private Islands about this issue, specially becuase i'm a sim owner and that can be pretty important.
Posted by: Raul Crimson | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 05:50 AM
I can already see hundreds of new generation griefers, flying around, peeking into skyboxes, and ARing people who engage in explicit animations in the privacy of their homes.
For lulz.
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Posted by: Sioban McMahon | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 07:20 AM
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Posted by: Cristalle Karami | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 07:58 AM
Uh, okay, but that's not the story here. Remember the admonition of Deep Throat*: "Follow the money."
The objective of the Adult Content policy has nothing to do with a more predictable user experience, but rather the creation of demand for redundant virtual land holdings in Adult and sub-Adult regions, thereby boosting LL's revenue.
This forced duplication of land holdings will obtain for both Estates and Mainland, but it's most apparent in the processes being set out for an initial Ursula land swap offered to (some) Mainland residents with "Adult" content.
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*Despite the "adult" context, this refers to the Woodward and Bernstein "Deep Throat." ;)
Posted by: Qie | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 07:58 AM
Jumping Jehosophat!
Kend Linden is quoted as saying "We literally took [their] input and channeled that into the definitions, [...] We're working on the best ways to keep that discussion going."
The definitions in Knowledge Base item 6010 seem to be more restrictive than the original version that caused such a ruckus and was hastily withdrawn. There's no indication there that any resident input was listened to.
Posted by: Argent Stonecutter | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 08:29 AM
I'm fine with the changes myself, but I did want to add to the comments here.
Not surprised that violence is OK and sex is not. The MPAA will let action heroes kill and gut 700 bad guys in 90 minutes but show a mild sex scene in a movie and get rated R. I'm not saying sex should be PG, but why is Violence in our society?
And what's really sad (in movie ratings and what MAY happen in SL,) is that Gay/Transgendered themes most often are singled out as Adult or NC-17 simply out of subconscious preconceptions about what materials our *children* should and should not have access to. If a movie shows naked boobies it could get PG-13, but show two dudes kissing, even for 2 seconds, and you get R. Not fair, but it's what has happened for awhile.
@ Raul Crimson In the brownbag session for Merchants, the Lindens said that for Private regions/islands you will probably need to set the entire sim to the highest level of maturity rating for any of the included parcels. So if some are PG and some parcels are Mature, your sim is Mature... As far as I heard during that meeting, if even 1 parcel is Adult in a PRIVATE sim, the sim itself must be tagged Adult.
What I did find interesting is that if you use sex poseballs in front of an audience it's Adult. But if you sell the poseballs themselves in your store it is only Mature. However they did not go into details about how you could display demos or what can be shown on example signs in the store.
@ SeanMcPherson Rude language or random spontaneous actions by guests visiting your land does not count as Adult. And of course anything done not in obvious public is never Adult. Meaning you and your partner can use sex poseballs in your house, (even if your land is not restricted)... you just can't sell tickets to it. ;-)
Posted by: Alicia Stella | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 08:32 AM
Alicia Stella: "Meaning you and your partner can use sex poseballs in your house, (even if your land is not restricted)... you just can't sell tickets to it. ;-)"
awww, too bad! xD
Posted by: Foobar Merlin | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 09:03 AM
Well from the brown bag meeting I listened to, education use is exempt even on PG land, but I maybe picked that up wrong,
However what the heck is the point of mature anymore? Oh someone might want to swear? Ooh better buy mature land. Mature is being made totally meaningless. People bought mature land to give them the option of engaging in mature activities, many are mainly PG still but the choice is there, now Linden Lab rip up the rule book and come up with a strange definition of "adult" that is so ridiculously thought out that they show they couldn't run a knees up in a brewery.
As for mixed use private regions, not allowed, Nanny Linden will see to that, adults are apparently quite incapable of making their own choices and need Nanny to hold their hand.
Posted by: Ciaran Laval | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 10:01 AM
Just to be on the safe side, my next avatar will be a walking brown paper package stamped repeatedly with the words, "Censored by Linden Labs".
(Along with a fine print disclaimer that the Linden Labs trademark is used without permission under the nominative fair use doctrine, of course.)
Posted by: Arcadia Codesmith | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 10:34 AM
Did you say Rend Linden is a lawyer? Are you sure he's not a politician?
Posted by: Skinkie Winkler | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 10:36 AM
@Skinkie Winkler: Both I suspect. The Linden apparantly managed to get through a whole Au interfiew without saying anything more than a few vague maybes.
'...but integrated into a much larger narrative and thematic structure. Will they need to move to the Adult continent? "It's hard to address each one at a time," he said.' So... we'll take each case as they pay us^W^W^Wwe come to it.
They may be fair and even handed about this, but from reading the above, I don't hold out a lot of hope.
Posted by: Siobhan Taylor | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 11:03 AM
Well SL is certainly now proven beyond any shadow of a doubt what sort of "business platform" SL is with LL's constant meddling in the affairs of others.
Posted by: Ann Otoole | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 11:10 AM
dandellion Kimban said:
"It's all OK, I really tend to be open to the changes as much as possible, but.....
"Shoot 'em up" is ok but nudity is not? Our civilization is seriously deviant then."
However, if you BOTHERED to READ the article, you'd see this, quoted from KenD Linden:
"The same goes for nudity in Mature areas: "If something is merely about nudity," Kend told me, "we're not going to create a rule that's so broad that any depiction or suggestion of nudity... is necessarily Adult.""
I realize I'm probably out of line for defending LL against knee-jerking, but seriously. The very first comment blatantly ignores the stated response from the guy being interviewed.
My only concern is the transition. Will LL be offering m2-for-m2 land swaps in this new AO continent? Or will they be auctioning new sims, and relying on existing mainland owners who want to move to sell their own land (at what I'm sure will be dramatically reduced values)? Either way, I'm thinking that it's going to be a good time to buy PG and Mature land for those who want to expand their Mainland holdings but don't need Adult content (ie, me). However, I'm still of a mind to own no more than half a region until they allow full-region mainland owners access to the debug controls.
Incidentally, I'm running the Public Nightly of 1.23 - which includes the AO controls. It picked up on the fact (apparently) that I verified a long time ago. The interface is pretty clean and unobtrusive - set it and forget it.
Something no-one has talked about - an enormous BENEFIT of this new Adult Continent. Think about how much it's going to cut down on griefing. Throw-away unverified accounts will no longer be allowed in Adult regions. That in and of itself is almost enough to make me move, if I can get a m2-for-m2 land trade, and nothing about anything on my land could be remotely classified as "Adult Content" except maybe some photos I have in my skybox of when my wife/partner was a dancer at a club, and those aren't overtly sexual, merely nude.
Posted by: Buckaroo Mu | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 11:18 AM
Speaking as the pastor of the First Church of Rosedale, we embrace the coming rapture. The book of Revelation has foretold of this time, when the deserving will be whisked away to a better land, where they can partake of all that is good... while the mainland will be left barren and desolate, and all will be chaos and ruin.
There's still time to join the chosen ones. Don't be Left Behind.
Posted by: Samantha Poindexter | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 01:31 PM
I'm personally concerned with the implications for Second Life artists. Interpretations of the ToS has always been murky this is going to cause even more confusion and will no doubt further throttle creative expression.
The broad spectrum of SL art has been getting much more attention recently and is being taken very seriously by many respected art critics and academic institutions. Just as such positive progress is being made this new rule comes along and threatens to further limit the potential audience.
Not all art is explicit of course but even without this rule questionable incidents of censorship regularly occur. Remember the "Nipplegate" affair at Burning Life?
Posted by: Arahan Claveau | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 01:53 PM
I tried to raise that point with the *Lady Chatterly's Lover* example, Arahan, which is an acknowledged work of literary art but is also sexually graphic. Kend seemed to suggest such examples wouldn't necessarily be sent to the Adult continent.
Posted by: Hamlet Au | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 02:12 PM
...and there's nothing more reassuring than a suggestion that particular content might not necessarily be deemed too hot to handle, is there?
Posted by: Samantha Poindexter | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 02:37 PM
Right Hamlet, the Lady Chatterly's Lover example is an important observation and highlights how subjective the whole issue is. The problem is that an artwork can be meaningful and beautiful to one person yet to another it could simply be seen as obscene and offensive.
Perhaps this won't affect the art community at all, only time will tell, but it is a worry that a gallery owner won't realise they are going against the policy until they get a notice to relocate, or at worst slapped with a ban or suspension.
Posted by: Arahan Claveau | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 03:50 PM
On the one hand I, like Buckaroo above, am not too stressed by what LL have said so far. Nudity is Mature but sex is Adult. That seems easy to live with.
But then I remember the nipplegate drama about a prim statue in a "Mature" sim and I start to wonder/worry. So here's a question: will the full frontal nudity currently displayed in skin stores be allowed to continue in mature sims? Or will LL require "bits" to be covered if the store is to remain in a "mature" area (and thus be visible/available to all the unverified new accounts)?
Posted by: Bluegum Lunasea | Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at 10:36 PM
I'm considering building a large statue but will have to rule out anatomically correctness because of the competition griefing potential. Risking a business over a fight that needs to be conducted before a judge is not worth it.
Posted by: Ann Otoole | Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 02:56 AM
I run a real-world web design agency with my partner, and we had been operating an office in-world where we expected to extend our business to offer services that helped link the two worlds. There was no adult element in our work whatsoever.
Today, as a result of this concrete evidence that LL intend to go through with their policy of enforcing poorly thought-out restrictions on how responsible and well-behaved customers are able to use their product, we have shut the office and are pulling our business out of Second Life.
Our own personal, non work-related, involvements are also under review.
Posted by: Random Merryman | Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 03:59 AM
"Think about how much it's going to cut down on griefing."
Will it? I've seen griefers with two or three year old accounts operating with impunity. There's no effective enforcement against griefing that would require rolling a new avatar, unless the griefer has managed to be banned in so many areas that he can't leave his own land.
I imagine if anything that there will be LESS protection against griefers in the Adult region, with the enforcers taking the attitude that you enter the continent at your own risk and being there implies consent to anything that happens to you (particularly troubling since they're lumping together erotic and graphically violent content).
We'll see how it plays out, but if segregation is the answer, I'd just as soon see the sex continent segregated from the violence continent. Big fan of one, not so hot on the other.
Posted by: Arcadia Codesmith | Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 06:36 AM
So here's a question: will the full frontal nudity currently displayed in skin stores be allowed to continue in mature sims? Or will LL require "bits" to be covered if the store is to remain in a "mature" area (and thus be visible/available to all the unverified new accounts)?
I note that the guidelines specify "photo-realistic" nudity, for one. Few skins manage to reach that level at it is (they tend to look a bit 'unnatural' when they do!) and, for that matter, I've seen quite a few skin kiosks that do, in fact, cover the naughty bits.
Posted by: CyFishy Traveler | Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 07:16 AM
I think there are two ways that LL can go about enforcing this:
The relaxed way, where they make the rules, clamp down on egregious violations, but otherwise let the various communities of Second Life police themselves. When faced with ARs, err on the side of inaction -- if it's a matter of nudity in an art gallery or even a certain amount of violence in RP, just let it go and tell the person making the AR that if they don't like it, they can teleport somewhere else.
The strict way, where Linden Lab freaks out at every wardrobe malfunction and everybody who accidently leaves a window open when operating a sex bed.
Posted by: Mitch Wagner | Thursday, April 23, 2009 at 10:53 AM
Now that the "blocked ad words" list is starting to leak out (words that will prevent Unverifieds from seeing even Mature land ad listings), things are looking quite hairy. Blondin Linden said several times that BDSM is not inherently Sex, but the word BDSM will be blocked from Unverifieds' view everywhere, so even a place like the bdsm Forum (a community support place that has a circle of seats, nothing more) will not be findable by Unverifieds.
Keep in mind, folks, there are many people who would like to Verify but can't (neither age-verify nor have credit card/paypal). That's an issue for many nonUSA persons.
Posted by: Lorelei Mission | Monday, April 27, 2009 at 10:01 AM
If PG is for "educators and businesses", what's going to happen to all the PG-rated land on the mainland, which people bought in the expectation that it would, well, match "PG" in movies ... which allow such hair-raising things as smoking, and beer, and even a bit of non-sexual nudity?
And while Blondin said in the forums that naked avatars will be allowed in mature areas, that's not what the published standards say.
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