« BuilderBot Update: Rezzable To Add Permissions Restrictions To Content Copying Program | Main | Want Your Virtual World Images Featured On Koinup's Homepage? Enter This Contest »

Tuesday, August 25, 2009

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Arcadia Codesmith

If you play SL from within SL, does the lag increase arithmatically or exponentially?

If it were somehow frictionless, I could see building a portal nexus linking to various other virtual worlds. That's a degree of interconnectivity that moves us a medium-sized hop towards metaversiality.

Kabaka

Make me a HUD so I can login 4 times and switch between my alts with alt+tab. :))

Richard Meiklejohn

Ah a tiny little bit of smugness - I finally beat NWN to a story having blogged this yesterday http://blog.knowsense.co.uk - of course, having it here means someone might actually read it ;-)

Don't get your hopes up though - I use SL sometimes over VNC by necessity, it's practically useless - VNC isn't designed for video-style whole page updates but more for desktops where only a small amount of info normally changes at once. However, for that application, as I mentioned in my post, it uses a LOT less bandwidth than the only current alternative in SL which is to stream your desktop as video. So for demoing software, teaching programming, sharing a document... this would be great and I can't wait until the plugin is released and the viewer supports it.

KipYellowjacket

A great accomplishment - congrats - but lack of friction does seem key - to make such a tool even more attractive - would love to give it a try...hats off to the maker again...

Metacam Oh

Mesh and Media = Possibilities

Dedric Mauriac

Looks like Qwaq may get a bit of competition now.

Veeyawn Spoonhammer

I think this would be great for a virtual data center setup. I use Amazon EC2 on occasion and it would be nice to build a model of what the machines look like and how they're connected...then, by touching them, activating VNC to actually work on them.

This is awesome.

Peyote Short

A very cool way to bring Second Life down to 1 FPS!

Aimee Trescothick

Thanks for the comments everyone :) I've been a bit snowed under with the interest this has generated today!

Aimee Trescothick

The low frame rate seen in SL in the video is mostly due to me finding shadows shadows irresistable, I probably should have turned them off for the demo. The remote machine running the SL client there is only a laptop with 2GHz Core2Duo, and a NVidia 9300M, which isn't really up using shadows.

It should have relatively little impact on the frame rate of your local viewer, only about the same as viewing a normal media stream, probably even less so than at the moment, as the media rendering now happens in a completely separate process, rather than in the viewer.

While the frame rate across the network with shadows off is still not great, it is better than in the video. As Richard says, this isn't really intended for running another SL client through, it's usefulness is more for sharing desktop applications, or providing remote assistance. The same sort of situations where systems like Webex, AT&T Connect, Apple Remote Destop, LogMeIn etc. would be used currently. It could prove particularly useful when mentoring new users for example, to see what they are seeing and provide guidance.

One novel fun use I have in mind, is to use it in conjunction with a VNC server running on an Android phone, or an iPhone, this would allow you to replicate and actually use your phone with your avatar in Second Life. Not particularly useful at the moment, as with the media stream tied to the parcel, it would only work on a parcel that is set to display it, however that limitation may well be removed in future.

Negko deVinna

A much better achievement than any flash plugin project!!!

Richard Meiklejohn

Does anyone have any idea when a server/client combination will actually support the concept of focus for a prim surface, and for that surface to receive mouse and keyboard events? Seems to me we would need that to deploy this.

Aimee Trescothick

Update: I now have it working in the Second Life client itself, so I do now have my live desktop on a prim in world :)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aimeethyst/3860441800

But as Richard surmises, so far it's view only as the client is not yet sending events back to the plug-in, unlike the test application which does.

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment

Your Information

(Name is required. Email address will not be displayed with the comment.)

Making a Metaverse That Matters Wagner James Au ad
Please buy my book!
Thumb Wagner James Au Metaverse book
Wagner James "Hamlet" Au
Wagner James Au Patreon
Equimake 3D virtual world web real time creation
Bad-Unicorn SL builds holdables HUD
Dutchie Evergreen Slideshow 2024
Juicybomb_EEP ad
IMG_2468
My book on Goodreads!
Wagner James Au AAE Speakers Metaverse
Request me as a speaker!
Making of Second Life 20th anniversary Wagner James Au Thumb
PC for SL
Recommended PC for SL
Macbook Second Life
Recommended Mac for SL

Classic New World Notes stories:

Woman With Parkinson's Reports Significant Physical Recovery After Using Second Life - Academics Researching (2013)

We're Not Ready For An Era Where People Prefer Virtual Experiences To Real Ones -- But That Era Seems To Be Here (2012)

Sander's Villa: The Man Who Gave His Father A Second Life (2011)

What Rebecca Learned By Being A Second Life Man (2010)

Charles Bristol's Metaverse Blues: 87 Year Old Bluesman Becomes Avatar-Based Musician In Second Life (2009)

Linden Limit Libertarianism: Metaverse community management illustrates the problems with laissez faire governance (2008)

The Husband That Eshi Made: Metaverse artist, grieving for her dead husband, recreates him as an avatar (2008)

Labor Union Protesters Converge On IBM's Metaverse Campus: Leaders Claim Success, 1850 Total Attendees (Including Giant Banana & Talking Triangle) (2007)

All About My Avatar: The story behind amazing strange avatars (2007)

Fighting the Front: When fascists open an HQ in Second Life, chaos and exploding pigs ensue (2007)

Copying a Controversy: Copyright concerns come to the Metaverse via... the CopyBot! (2006)

The Penguin & the Zookeeper: Just another unlikely friendship formed in The Metaverse (2006)

"—And He Rezzed a Crooked House—": Mathematician makes a tesseract in the Metaverse — watch the videos! (2006)

Guarding Darfur: Virtual super heroes rally to protect a real world activist site (2006)

The Skin You're In: How virtual world avatar options expose real world racism (2006)

Making Love: When virtual sex gets real (2005)

Watching the Detectives: How to honeytrap a cheater in the Metaverse (2005)

The Freeform Identity of Eboni Khan: First-hand account of the Black user experience in virtual worlds (2005)

Man on Man and Woman on Woman: Just another gender-bending avatar love story, with a twist (2005)

The Nine Souls of Wilde Cunningham: A collective of severely disabled people share the same avatar (2004)

Falling for Eddie: Two shy artists divided by an ocean literally create a new life for each other (2004)

War of the Jessie Wall: Battle over virtual borders -- and real war in Iraq (2003)

Home for the Homeless: Creating a virtual mansion despite the most challenging circumstances (2003)

Newstex_Author_Badge-Color 240px
JuicyBomb_NWN5 SL blog
Ava
Ava Delaney SL Blog
Ava
my site ... ... ...
Virtual_worlds_museum_NWN