« Eshi Leaves: How Do You Keep Your Second Life From Overwhelming Your First Life? | Main | NWN in Japanese:Opheliaの視点から:RMB Cityデザインコンテスト最優秀賞受賞者発表 »

Friday, October 16, 2009


Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Crap Mariner

Rez a block.

Raise it a meter.

Does it fall?

As long as it doesn't, I think you have the answer.


Galatea Gynoid

All the best things in SL come from the creators who come to it from outside LL. The magic of SL comes from us, not from them. The best thing for LL to do is be a good hosting provider, and get out of the way for the creative community to go work and play on the Grid. No departure in LL can take the magic away from SL, since that's not where the magic comes from...

A visionary like Philip should be out doing visionary things, not working for what's become a hosting company. LL should focus on making a stable platform. It's no longer a role that has a need for someone like Philip.

The magic comes from the outside. Now Philip is on the outside. I foresee *more* magic in our futures... :)

Dorie Bernstein

I certainly hope (and am very certain) that SL is more than its creator now. SL is earning her own wings, thanks to the residents and Lindens who have contributed to her growth.

Adele Ward

With some of the best projects the person who started them becomes dispensable and wants to reach the stage where they are dispensable.

Dusan Writer

I primarily quoted Gatsby for the following line:

"For a transitory enchanted moment man must have held his breath in the presence of this continent, compelled into an aesthetic contemplation he neither understood nor desired, face to face for the last time in history with something commensurate to his capacity for wonder."

And don't get me wrong...as I stated in my post:

"I have great faith in Mark Kingdon’s ability to scale Second Life and his recognition that enterprise is not the future of the Grid, but rather a component of a platform in which community and casual users are the key to its success and sustainability."

I still can't help feeling that in losing some of Philip's voice we lose part of the dreaminess of the world - and without that it shifts towards being more of a platform than a world. While SL will always embody the dreams of its users, I believe that the culture is influenced by the Lab, and that influence will increasingly be pragmatic and based on channels and product.

That's fine, especially if it increases the numbers of casual users.

The culture of SL isn't lost - so long as we're all rezzing prims on the grid it will continue. But the force with which its protected may be more organized and systematic, and it won't enjoy as many of the benefits of serendipity which came when it was all idle dreaming and shiny new things, accidental change and unintended consequences.

(Um, I retract, the last bit will always be with us I'm sure).

FlipperPA Peregrine

My take? First off, I don't get the East Egg/West Egg/Roaring '20s analogy, and Philip never seemed like a "silver shirt, gold tie" kind of guy... but is has been years since I read Gatsby.

I think Philip checked out mentally a while ago. The analogy I would compare is that of a television program. Many show creators start a show, hang around for part of the first season, and move on, leaving the show to the "showrunners." J.J. Abrams with Lost is a good example, leaving the actual show to Damon and Carlton, while still extolling the show's thick mythology.

Visionaries create, not maintain. Philip is a dreamer, it is his greatest strength, and as SL has become more mature... yet stagnant... it seems clear that SL hasn't been the apple of his eye in quite some time. Snowglobe was a last grasp to get back at the chaos of creation that visionaries thrive upon.

For quite a few years, SL was artist in progress. While the finished piece may some day be beautiful, the early stages of a piece of art are always messy as hell. Philip, like many of us, may just be burned out, and not enjoying the routine of Second Life.

As for SL's mass adoption. I take quite a different angle: when you talk about Facebook, Myspace, Second Life, Youtube, Twitter, and so on... while the others have more users, SL remains the only business turning a profit. Without money, bubbles all eventually burst. Social networking, in many ways, is the new dot-com, and SL is the only one making money.

I wish Philip the best in all of his future endeavors. "The king has left the building!" ... but not the world. :)



Metacam Oh

My problem is this: The guy who created it, got bored... What does that mean for the rest of us?


SL lost its magic years ago.


This is quite a development with the king leaving and all. I think I know why. I think Philip told the Linden staff. He said "Linden Staff. We need to fix these dynamic shadow problems now!"

Then. Linden staff retorted and said "Sorry Philip. We don't think dynamic shadows are important."

Then. Philip said "Linden Lab staff, you are making a terrible mistake!"

With that, Philip left the building.

So now, I can't tell you when dynamic shadows will truly work as they should.

Hopefully, sometime soon...

Katydid Something

Kids, Kids, Kids! SL is us. Period

Liz Dorland (Chimera Cosmos)

"Visionaries create, not maintain. Philip is a dreamer, it is his greatest strength..."

"...the chaos of creation that visionaries thrive upon."

I can SO relate to that. Well said Flipper. :-)

Chimera Cosmos

ColeMarie Soleil

Second Life is about a COMMUNITY of people.

Not a figure head.

Without the artists SL is a bunch of empty grids.

'nuff said

Iggy O

@ColeMarie, figure heads can inspire us. I don't drink the Linden Kool-Aid, but I have always felt awe at how Philip Rosedale made a vision from SF happen online.

And @Chimera, you know me from SLER; I've long worried that if the community loses its dreamers and artists because of ham-fisted policy, it will become little more than shopping malls and tract-homes. This is why so many SLER members chafe at the boring interfaces and top-down approaches of course-management systems and come into virtual worlds for teaching and learning. In RL, it also happens in artsy neighborhoods when the rents rise and the chain-stores creep in.

Fitzgerald refs aside (I'd opt not for Gatsby but "The Beautiful and Damned," at times, in SL) we might look at Snowcrash again, Rosedale's literary inspiration.

Part of Hiro's discontent in Snowcrash was how his world had become full of Brandy and Clint avatars. Hiro and his friends could still move off into undeveloped parts of the Metaverse and do what they wanted.

Let's see if M can run the firm well enough to avoid doing things that disrupt SL's current balance of blingtards, Burners, and bohemians.


Phillip Rosedale leaving will not have any impact at all given he already vacated a long time ago and his departure has had nowhere near the destructive potential of the change to former ebay management. The plan is becoming more and more clear. Only a certain few friends (power sellers) of LL will be allowed to be in business in Second Life. This type of "management" has nothing to do with "magic".

But by all means keep on thinking SL is some artist commune. It isn't anymore. One day you will wake up and realize it is nothing but Barnum's art of money getting and LL will keep a few freak shows around so they can say they have "artists".

Coughran Mayo/Dick Dillon

Advance apologies to Mr. Lennon --

You may say Philip is a dreamer, but he's not the ONLY one.


The cost of having fun in SL matters to me. Some people just come into SL expecting things to be built for them to have fun, and who are those people that build the fun stuff? the people who struggle to pay land tiers. Its a game or working out how to make it work, and only a small few figure it out where the rest fail and leave.

Philip left ages ago, his influence pushed out. SL is not going to become adopted by the masses until it's inviting financially. The SL community lept at the chance to own a openspace Sim at its original offordable price, now its seen as to expensive and a major drag with the sickening prospect of going up in price again next year.

Its my 4th rezday in SL next wednesday, and im wishing for a reduction in tier prices. Im getting tired of the fight to keep my homestead, there is no fun in it, just worry and frustration. Does anyone else feel like i do?

Metacam Oh

A nice tier reduction would go a long way toward good will with residents and not only make it easier to make ends meat. Whats the lure of a virtual world where a handful of people can make money and the rest of everyone is spent trying to scrounge enough change to pay for their experience.


Actually a lot of SL residents who have been here a year already dont know who Phillip is

Joan Kremer

Phillip Rosedale's leaving was inevitable. Rarely, if ever, does the original inventor/entrepreneur remain once an organization has moved into the maintenance stage. Organizational development experts emphasize that the skills required to start a business are not the same as those needed to maintain it. Nothing remains static -- not even SL.

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.


Post a comment

Your Information

(Name is required. Email address will not be displayed with the comment.)

Wagner James Au
Wagner James "Hamlet" Au
Nylon Pinkney Outfitters in SL
SL Hair Fair Wigs for Kids benefit
my site ... ... ...