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Thursday, July 15, 2010

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Metacam Oh

Well the problem is that people assume just because they video captured themselves walking around Second Life, that its actually "Machinima" There needs to be a quality standard by which we say, ok this is not machinima, its merely crap. If someone cannot remove the SL Menu/UI I can't call it machinima. I also can't stand when people make videos for copyrighted music. Do we really need an SL Video for a Beyonce song? No. Theres plenty of SL musicians out there that would love to offer their music for a music video.

Adric Antfarm

We don't want to reek of art snobs who discourage the work of hacks like myself as they service those who churn out work that is frankly bizarre and nonsensical with no meaning. If you talk about the rules of art you have stopped talking about art. You are really just rolling down your car window and asking for Grey Poupon.

Do these folks really take themselves this seriously? Wow? More so considering Second Life was not designed to make machinima and it actively tries to make it difficult as you rig camera pans and pray for the best.

There are programs that are suited to the task. Moviestorm is great but that is all it does. As for dialogue Xtranormal is great. That Second Life can work is a testament to those able to use a butter knife to cut steak.

Sure, you can cover it up with bright colors and avant garde work that is sadly derivative, but it's simply served on a tray for the little crowd of those who consider themselves the artists in Second Life as they prepare for the 12-6 shift at Denny's.

Making someone laugh is a challenge in this form and those who pull it off like Josue Habanna in his Octomom video, the brilliant Man vs Second Life, and the sad saga M Poster Linden are making real stuff. That is content. Not flashy trashy.

I get that you want to be the high brow art guy writer, but the vast majority of your readers may very well relate to something more unrefined.

Original titles. Really? That is one of your criteria? Am I being punked? Where is Ashton?


Nine Warrhol

Very well said Adric. I agree! Why should there be limits on what is and what isn't Machinima? It's silly the very idea. Most of the stuff that I have seen that is called Machinima is really just a circle jerk for the creator showing off how good their graphics are..lol

As long as its fun that should be all that matters. Don't define it. Creativity should be welcomed in any form, from anyone.

Ann Otoole

Yea sure it takes a lot to get to the top of the pile. But what makes judgmental people that don't even make anything worth looking at the experts?

There is a lot more to it and posting articles that read like they are intended to drive off potential talent is just another example of the most ugly and despicable aspect of SL that drives people away: elitism.

Look at some of the early work from some of the people you have deemed the masters and get back to us with a story from them about how it was at first and how they evolved.

Hamlet Au

I said this post was about "My Favorite Second Life Machinima" in the title for a reason, I'm not claiming this is a definitive list, just mine. (Though I'll go out on a limb and say slow-paced machinima with muddy visuals and bad lip sync aren't generally a great idea.)

Paisley Beebe

Yeh Hamlet we know you are hung up on the Lip Sync thing..but you know what..if you don't find that watchable how do you find anything about SL machinima beleivable or watchable. None of SL annimation is Synced like real life, SL hair doesn't move like RL hair, people in SL don't walk like real Life people, no one other than you cares about Lip Sync, its all about suspending disbelief...in the same way as when we watched the Thunderbirds in the 60's we could see the damn strings, it was still fun! still a story...get over the lip sync and enjoy the message and the content you are way too distracted by the limitations. Paisley

Mistletoe

I don't see it at all as discouraging or driving off potential talent. I see it simply as "This is what I personally like and look for." I didn't see any point in which Hamlet says they are absolute musts; only that there are elements that work for making a good machinima. And aside from the opening titles and lip sync, the rest are really just general elements that make any production better: a good story, good pacing, emotional appeal, etc.

I've never made an SL machinima before, but if I ever do, these are all things that I'll consider. I find the article far less "driving off" than inspiring.

Chaffro Schoonmaker

Thanks for hating my work and dismissing all the effort I put in. I'll give up now.

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