« Miss Ophelia's Metaverse Manners: The Trouble with Facelights, Unwanted Guests, and the Death of Decency | Main | Open Forum: What Are Your Favorite Active Virtual World, SL, and Game Blogs? (Yes, Including Yours) »

Thursday, January 06, 2011


Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.


Actually, there's no reason a viewer couldn't be compiled for the xbox live environment using the XNA Game Studio as far as I know. Anybody know why it hasn't already been done?

Ann Otoole InSL

Hmmm maybe. Maybe not. Although I would love to see an interface that lets me build with my hands I have little expectation LL has the resources to make it happen. This technology requires capabilities beyond triggering animations to play. As it stands what you see animating on your screen may not even be what someone else sees on their screen in SL.

Long row to hoe I'm afraid. And it could indeed be a mere passing fad.

By the time we get there the entire UI paradigm may have changed again anyway.

Those microsoft avatars are horrid btw. absolute garbage. Someone needs to be fired.

Ah well can't resist. When this happens, and it should, what will we do with the bozos and their certain continuous arm animations?

Oh and using kinect style interfaces for extended periods of time seems illogical. Guess there will have to be the normal UI to use when one gets tired of walking in place or flapping of arms like an idiot to fly. Yea... more to this than is on the surface.

I'm waiting for retinal stimulation displays so we can have "terminator vision". That is the really big "next thing".

Valentina Kendal

let's be honest, if this succeeds you just know the people who will make money off it first and best are the porn/sex sites. all over the country people will be paying money to simulate sex acts by themselves in front of their TVs

/me makes *no* comment about your use of the word 'sticky' Hamlet...

Adeon Writer

I'll buy a Kinect when it works good on Windows, Mac, & Linux, and has a decent implementation for any non-console virtual world. :)

Still, it's great to see it becoming mainstream.


Looks like a novelty to me. I'm all up on the technology and will probably get a kinex within a few months, but all these things I see any1 doing with this, is bunk. What is the purpose? People will soon find out that how they move is not all that interesting, and who wants to see people scratching their balls or picking their undies out of those tight places.

The most interesting part of realtime animation in VWs would be for live performances. Beyond that, it won't be anything that people will actually use, at least not for years.

OH, and i totally agree with Ann on the look of those avatars. If they release it like that, it will totally flop. If i want to animate a character in realtime, I want something badass, not cute weeblo people. Might be cool for the kiddies and I'm sure MS will sell millions of kinexs. Fun tho, I don't see it. Might as well just turn the webcam on. I'd be wearing better looking clothes than those avatars.

Adeon Writer

Someone has already reworked the Kinect to capture human motion data and automatically generate a .bvh file. In other words, the Kinect hardware, without the x-box, can work with a PC as a home ho-cap device.


@Adeon - Yeah, I'll probably get the kinex just to have greater mobility when filming motion capture.

To me, I just see an interface problem for everyday use. If you use it, how do you use any interface? If your motion is your interface and your gestures are the triggers, which you'd need alot, then you'd just be some person doing weird gestures all the time using the interface. Even if you could touch an invisible interface, you are still looking weird. If you still have to use your regular keyboard, then you need a desk that is 4 foot tall, and you still look weird. I just don't see a way around it.

STill will be cool for mocaps and live stuff, and cheap enough for any1.


This might be good for specialized usage, but for everyday use, it looks like more novelty than anything else. When we get full brain interface immersion, then maybe that will be something. As for this, meh.

Pat Powers

As soon as they figure out a way to have sex with Kinect that's close to the um, natural way, Kinect will succeed like nothing you ever saw. Have virtual sex with beautiful/handsome people from all over the world in the privacy of your own home! Good lord, aren't you people even paying attention to Second Life's most popular activity?

Maybe there'll come along some buzzy/vibratey interface that'll make it a really COMPELLING experience. Third Party, for sure! Or, bondage devices that can be remotely controlled by the other party. It's all about our imagination, peoples!

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.


Post a comment

Your Information

(Name is required. Email address will not be displayed with the comment.)

Making a Metaverse That Matters Wagner James Au ad
Please buy my book!
Thumb Wagner James Au Metaverse book
Wagner James "Hamlet" Au
Valentine Dutchie Second Life gift
Bad-Unicorn Funny Second Life items
Juicybomb_EEP ad
My book on Goodreads!
Wagner James Au AAE Speakers Metaverse
Request me as a speaker!
Making of Second Life 20th anniversary Wagner James Au Thumb
my site ... ... ...
PC for SL
Recommended PC for SL
Macbook Second Life
Recommended Mac for SL

Classic New World Notes stories:

Woman With Parkinson's Reports Significant Physical Recovery After Using Second Life - Academics Researching (2013)

We're Not Ready For An Era Where People Prefer Virtual Experiences To Real Ones -- But That Era Seems To Be Here (2012)

Sander's Villa: The Man Who Gave His Father A Second Life (2011)

What Rebecca Learned By Being A Second Life Man (2010)

Charles Bristol's Metaverse Blues: 87 Year Old Bluesman Becomes Avatar-Based Musician In Second Life (2009)

Linden Limit Libertarianism: Metaverse community management illustrates the problems with laissez faire governance (2008)

The Husband That Eshi Made: Metaverse artist, grieving for her dead husband, recreates him as an avatar (2008)

Labor Union Protesters Converge On IBM's Metaverse Campus: Leaders Claim Success, 1850 Total Attendees (Including Giant Banana & Talking Triangle) (2007)

All About My Avatar: The story behind amazing strange avatars (2007)

Fighting the Front: When fascists open an HQ in Second Life, chaos and exploding pigs ensue (2007)

Copying a Controversy: Copyright concerns come to the Metaverse via... the CopyBot! (2006)

The Penguin & the Zookeeper: Just another unlikely friendship formed in The Metaverse (2006)

"—And He Rezzed a Crooked House—": Mathematician makes a tesseract in the Metaverse — watch the videos! (2006)

Guarding Darfur: Virtual super heroes rally to protect a real world activist site (2006)

The Skin You're In: How virtual world avatar options expose real world racism (2006)

Making Love: When virtual sex gets real (2005)

Watching the Detectives: How to honeytrap a cheater in the Metaverse (2005)

The Freeform Identity of Eboni Khan: First-hand account of the Black user experience in virtual worlds (2005)

Man on Man and Woman on Woman: Just another gender-bending avatar love story, with a twist (2005)

The Nine Souls of Wilde Cunningham: A collective of severely disabled people share the same avatar (2004)

Falling for Eddie: Two shy artists divided by an ocean literally create a new life for each other (2004)

War of the Jessie Wall: Battle over virtual borders -- and real war in Iraq (2003)

Home for the Homeless: Creating a virtual mansion despite the most challenging circumstances (2003)

Newstex_Author_Badge-Color 240px
JuicyBomb_NWN5 SL blog
Ava Delaney SL Blog