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Monday, June 13, 2011


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Arcadia Codesmith

I was at a Skye Galaxy set over the weekend (he was up after Annan Dreamscape, so I decided to stick around) and was surprised that there were as many as 90 people there at a time and I only crashed twice.

Rock Band and other rhythm games have primed the pump for acts and management (new, established and legendary) looking for alternate online outlets and venues. If we can deliver thousands of fans while maintaining rock-solid stability and performance, that's an opportunity for huge growth without changing the fundamental nature of the experience.

Melissa Yeuxdoux

Sweet... though it would be still more convincing with more diverse and fancier clothing in use rather than everyone but the POV guy dressed alike. (OTOH, when will we see a Matrix-style machinima done with this? :))

Adeon Writer

The problem with many avatars in one place is two-fold:

1.) Rendering. SL avatars are very detailed, a single avatar often has more graphical data than the local scene. And the are unique, so GPU lag happens fast with just a few people. This causes VIEWERS to crash.

2.) Scripting. Avatars use many scripts, the majority of which are over their 2000k "fair share". This causes REGIONS to crash.

The avatar limit in SL is low to give people the freedom to have overly detailed avatars and ludicrous scripting. The alternative us to allow 1000's of avatars but you'd need to cap script memory and GPU usage per avatar or the clients/viewers simply could not handle it. That limits individual creativity.

In the blogged example, all the avatars are visual clones. Only one avatar needs to load, and then they are all finished loading. Similarly, I bet they aren't using 2000k script memory each, either, which already under the average usage per avatar in SL.

Given there circumstances, obviously you can handle many avatars.

Tateru Nino

I'm not sure who could afford the hardware to make this architecture work in practice. Or how you'd recover that cost if you did.

Angie Mornington

That's gonna be one hell of a party! BYOB!


I was guest at one of these tests about one year ago and it was a overwhelming experience, even with most of the avatars being bots and just a few (I can only guess - about 100? ) controlled by RL persons. For sure a great thing to come.

Wizard Gynoid

call up gracie kendal! it's a new twist on her 1000 avatars thingie.

Ann Otoole InSL

Let's see it with all the avis wearing different scripts and attachments. Lab experiments prove exactly nothing. I/We want to see this for real at free open sim price levels.

I.e.; the pic shows a bunch of clones. Next?

Graham Mills

I was at a more recent demo. It depends somewhat on the tuning but there was negligible lag for me even with 650 avatars in a megaregion. The bots were, however, running anti-collision code and that tended to fail at high concurrency. Which was fun...

Arcadia Codesmith

Hmmm... if it were my project, I'd handle avatar customization by implementing a strict avatar rendering routine where priority is based on proximity, with a method of designating the on-stage act as the primary override.

It means 975 of the 1000 attendees may never see your supercool rainbow glowing body armor... but they're not there to see you, they're there to see the show. If you want everybody to see your fabulousness, book your own performance.

David Cartier

I doubt there'd be many times you'd need to worry about 1000 avatars, but if this helps us get 50 or 100 decked out avs in the same sim with no lag it will be a big help.

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