Mesh has been live in Second Life for about a month, so now's a good time to ask SLers how much it's impacted your in-world activity. Do you now use a mesh-enabled viewer? Do you buy mesh-based content? Click below to take a survey asking those very two things.
The idea for this survey comes from veteran content creator Damien Fate, who are among the many developers now making and selling mesh. So this survey, as he puts it, will provide "good figures for mesh creators to go by to see what share of the market can view their goods." So click below to take the mesh survey:
*DL* Flufee avatar by Dirty Lynx, as as photographed by Honour McMillan and modeled by Diana Renoir.
I never use mesh or a mesh viewer YET.
There is no hurry so I am not even looking at this mesh stuff for a few months at least.
Posted by: jo yardley | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 12:35 PM
I just spent a very enjoyable weekend taking part in the 48hour film project and we used mesh products in that filming. I've been enjoying exploring and experimenting with mesh content for a while now. More impressed with whole rigged avis and builds than individual pieces of clothing at the moment, but am waiting to be wowed by some great clothing in the future. My default viewer is mesh enabled.
Posted by: Toxic Menges | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 01:02 PM
No I am not buying mesh and I don't use a mesh-enabled viewer 90% of the time.
Posted by: Samara Barzane | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 01:30 PM
My home sim is in a region not supported by mesh. I'm still getting used to Firestorm, so I'm not in a rush to use mesh even as a clothing item. When attending an event, and you are not using a mesh supported viewer, the residents wearing mesh look pretty crappy.
It's all part of the evolution of SL/VWs. One day we will look back and remember the times when the mesh users showed up to the concert with missing middles and wearing barrels. Last night I ran into Honour and Diana (the cute avatars you picture) and I was not using a mesh-enabled viewer, they looked like colorful oil tanks. LOL
Posted by: Leondra | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 01:42 PM
I wish there was an option for "rarely buy mesh content." I do buy it, but only when the mesh creator works well with the current limitations of mesh (for example, 4mc's excellent bulky jacket, which doesn't rely so heavily on forcing the wearer into a specific shape, but still makes the most of mesh's ability to move with the wearer). I do not buy mesh that forces me to discard my own shape in favor of the designer's shape.
Posted by: Vaki | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 02:01 PM
I LOVE MESH. I love to buy mesh, I love to wear mesh. If people can't see it, that's not my fault they're still doing it old school.
Posted by: Alicia Chenaux | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 02:41 PM
I've been using mesh capable viewers for months.
I have yet to buy a mesh anything. Things are too up in the air to know what one is buying. Sooner or later I'll see something I just have to have.
Posted by: Nalates Urriah | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 03:35 PM
The only time I use the mesh viewer or buy or wear mesh items is for blog pictures.
Posted by: Lourdes | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 05:18 PM
Thanks for posting this!
Posted by: Damien Fate | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 05:19 PM
What about, I use a mesh based browser and am desperately trying to learn more about creating mesh myself.
I have bought a few things but I've spent a lot more time doing tutorials and learning more about mesh and blender since mesh has become a main grid reality than anything else.
Posted by: Moggs Oceanlane | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 05:23 PM
I've seen a few mesh related items for sale, but haven't bought anything just yet. There just isn't enough content there to tag my interest. I've finally switched over to SL's official viewer, but not without the help of the starlight skin which fixes all of the UI flaws the Lindens like to call features. ( http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Viewer_Skins/Starlight )
Posted by: Robert Kohut | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 06:07 PM
Won't buy mesh clothes until I can make the clothes fit my shape and don't have to make my shape fit the clothes.
Posted by: Amethyst Jetaime | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 07:48 PM
I'm using the Firestorm Mesh Beta or the Viewer 3 from LL, but NOT because of Mesh! I'm using them to be able to make up to 64 Meter prims, which is FAR more important to me than Mesh, which many people still can't see properly.
I will not purchase or use or create Mesh content until LL resolves some of the major issues with Mesh (Like the complete lack of avatar morph slider responses in mesh clothes and mesh avatars), and until 85% or more of the users on the Grid can actually see mesh content as anything other than random prim garbage.
Posted by: Ceera Murakami | Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 08:01 PM
Ohh.. I love mesh, use the mesh firestorm since the day it came out and bought my first mesh boots one day after the mssh firestorm came out.
However there is one option missing since while I don't buy much mesh yet (not enough content available yet), I build with it and spend lots of time learning blender.
Posted by: Rin Tae | Wednesday, September 21, 2011 at 02:07 AM
only use to upload and test,all mesh viewers really suck on my state of the art pc's,only sold 2 in a month.Love checking out the stolen content that is uploaded though...LL will have some deleting content,accounts and answers to do when the team at Stanford Computer Graphics Laboratory get wind of what is going on at the marketplace...
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try explaining it to this guy https://marketplace.secondlife.com/p/David-Michelangelo-by-Mesh-This/2677801
though his English isn't too good ??
Posted by: jon | Wednesday, September 21, 2011 at 02:51 AM
While I stick to whatever the latest Linden viewer is my alts are still using Phoenix. Like Ceera I appreciate the 64m Prims!
Right now I don't think a Survey means much as people are still changing over. When the majority are seeing strange shapes every day and realise 'that must be Mesh' then they will switch, by which time a stable Firestorm should be available for those who like customisable UIs.
Posted by: Oriella Charik | Wednesday, September 21, 2011 at 03:40 AM
*Often* as the opposite of *never*?
I *use* a mesh viewer and buy often. Im loving it. Looks fab. I`m not adverse to making myself fit the closest size. My only problem is my slowpoke partner who wont step into the future with me. He`s going to find himself staring at grey blobs. *shrugs*
Posted by: nat | Wednesday, September 21, 2011 at 04:51 AM
The only survey that matters is how many people log in with a mesh-enabled viewer, which only Linden Lab has the correct numbers for. Hamlet, could you get them to tell us this info?
By the way, for users of the Phoenix viewer, they are adding mesh. It's currently only in the code repository, but it's coming.
Posted by: Danielle | Wednesday, September 21, 2011 at 06:05 AM
Mesh is an exciting new tool for me in SL. I've been dabbling in 3D software for many years and have just started building mesh items for my estate. I find Firestorm MUCH more stable than the standard SL viewer and am loving it so far.
Posted by: Imagin Illyar | Wednesday, September 21, 2011 at 06:41 AM
I haven't bought any mesh to date. I've got no objection to buying mesh, but nothing has hit my "covet" button yet.
Posted by: Arcadia Codesmith | Wednesday, September 21, 2011 at 07:06 AM
Just to clarify one statement, mesh is now available on the entire grid. Anyone thinking they don't have it should check their viewer, then check with the landlord or with LL.
I feel I skewed the results a bit. I always use a mesh viewer but don't buy mesh because I'm a mesh creator. If I want something, I'll build it.
Posted by: Rusalka Writer | Wednesday, September 21, 2011 at 10:13 AM
I was really excited about mesh. I even successfully made rigged mesh clothing on the beta grid. I shelved that project though when I found out I couldn't resize a rigged mesh.
I am still interested in mesh but I am waiting until someone comes up with a mesh viewer that is stable and with most all the bugs ironed-out. I currently use Phoenix and have been waiting for Firestorm to come out of beta. Now that Phoenix will be coming out with a version that will let you view meshes I may try that first.
With more viewers (even V1 style viewers coming out with mesh viewable versions) coming out, I think mesh will be adopted my most alot sooner.
Posted by: Alexi Reggiane | Thursday, September 22, 2011 at 02:38 AM
Mesh viewers,builders & buyers
http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/ancient/egyptians/pyramid_builders_01.shtml
Posted by: beeja | Thursday, September 22, 2011 at 04:43 AM
i use a mesh enabled viewer all the time, and i have mesh stuff, it looks more precise and cause less lag.
im aware that some people cant see my mesh stuff but the problem is not on my side, is that they are too outdated to see things correctly.
Posted by: Canoro Philipp | Friday, September 23, 2011 at 12:19 PM
I do not use mesh and I do not have a Mesh capable viewer (one of my PCs has firestorm beta but not the one with mesh since I heard it has mesh bugs).
Like many I have heard, I have no immediate feeling to rush to mesh. I dont wanna walk around SL grid with invisible body parts and I do not want to invest in Mesh for about 3 to 6 months because by that time all viewers will be in full production mesh capable mode, LL glitches and bugs with Mesh deployment and usage will have been worked out and I would consider trying to convert some of my landscape Sculpty map packs to a Mesh version to see how it sells.
I will let the MESHANISTAS figure out all the bugs of mesh until mesh is mainstream adopted on the grid.
Posted by: Toysoldier Thor | Friday, September 23, 2011 at 12:21 PM
At present, Firestorm's Beta 2 is the only viewer that works correctly for me, as I'm a casualty of the GeForce 4 series crash bug. Even if I work around that problem, textures disappear etc.
So I sometimes use a mesh viewer, but only to test uploading mesh in order to be prepared when there's a stable viewer. I won't be comfortable wearing and rezzing mesh until both the Phoenix Team and Linden Lab's "officially supported viewers" are all mesh-enabled, with the exception of lingering 1.X support.
Posted by: Ezra | Friday, September 23, 2011 at 07:11 PM