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Pussycat Catnap

Saw Tin Tin and didn't experience -any- level of uncanny valley feelings. I gathered the rest of the audience was with me as well in enjoying the film.

Haven't read the linked info though yet. Will have to now to see if this professor is trying to claim Tin Tin is a trigger film.

Pussycat Catnap

ps: SL could just be a film we'd be stuck watching unable to click a single thing, and it still wouldn't trigger. No matter how human people try to make their avatars, they're still about as cartoony as those in World of Warcraft (albeit in different ways)...

Not only in the look, but the animation as well.

Pussycat Catnap

Ok read the article and thankfully I can still stand by above 2 comments, but with some notes.

Yeah, I think it -is- in the story and less in the realism.

This is -why- Tin Tin didn't trigger for me - despite being hyper real it also clearly felt like a cartoon and invited that play mindset.

BY CONTRAST...

Avatar felt just as hyper real, but invited me to voyeur at a story and world, thereby not triggering the 'uncanny'.

Two animated films, which succeeded, by taking opposite paths.

Curiously... I think this also explains why I have so much trouble with Chinese 'wire flying' martial arts movies. They are not animated, and have real actors, but people flying around or across tree tops and mountain cliffs... triggers my sense of the uncanny by trying to 'cartoon me' during live-action...
- I find myself getting almost angry everytime I see one of these movies, and end up having to make snippy comments to RL friends, interrupting the movie, about 'where mah Bruce Lee @?'
- I start blaming it on poor acting and talking about Lee's famous charm, when perhaps its really those darn wire-acts throwing it off for me (and this is a context thing, because I can sit there a super-hero movie and not be bothered one bit - because that presents itself in a cartoonish premise).

Arcadia Codesmith

I think there's definitely an "uncanny valley" for physics. We can enjoy a production where the laws of physics are vastly different, we can enjoy a production where they're utterly realistic, but we're put off by effects that shoot for some sort of realism but just miss the mark.

The best action sequence in Iron Man 2 had nothing to do with Iron Man; it was Scarlett Johansson kicking some serious butt as the Black Widow. Wires and other aids were used, but the sequence feels real -- it looks like something that could happen in real life... if somebody were a super badass Olympic gymnast secret agent ninja.

On the flip side, there are several instances in the
X-Men series where Wolverine gets hurled through (random obstacle) to demonstrate how powerful (random villain) is, and I flinch each time because he never follows a ballistic arc -- it's always a stunt guy getting yanked back by a wire. It's just slightly off, and that bothers me more than something that's just plain wrong (like, say, the amazing vacuum aerodynamics of the X-Wing fighter).

Qie Niangao

Apparently a certain candidate for the GOP presidential nomination has a similar problem: http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/01/the-uncanny-valley-what-robot-theory-tells-us-about-mitt-romney/252235/

Arcadia Codesmith

Thanks for that link, Qie. Food for thought.

Connie Arida

I like the uncanny valley so much i keep digging :)

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