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Wednesday, May 15, 2013


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Arcadia Codesmith

"I'm not in a position to claim to know how inaccurate or accurate these stats are to the comics."

I am. I was a big X-Fan back in the... ummm... let's not talk about that. Anyway, Phoenix was my favorite.

Jean Grey as Phoenix beats Thor. She beats all the Avengers. At the same time, including all the obscure alumni you've never heard of. Phoenix, unchecked, beats the Universe. Or more accurately, eats the Universe (What If, issue #27).

When she is one with the Phoenix Force, she is Kind of A Big Deal, cosmic-scale badass goddess.

She's a really bad character to put into a game. Either you nerf her down to levels that aren't true to the character, or just give her an "I Win" key. Even comic writers have to go to amazingly convoluted lengths to explain why she doesn't just use her "I Win" key for every epic battle, diabolical trap, or to make a mint turning household trash into gold.

Jean Grey as Marvel Girl would be in the right power range. But nobody remembers Jean Grey as Marvel Girl (and it's probably just as well).

CronoCloud Creeggan

I had/have copies of the Marvel Super Heroes tabletop RPG, so I also know capabilities.

A fully Phoenix powered Jean Grey is a powerhouse. Class 1000 power. It even ups her base physical stats enough rival low powered heroes like Captain America in base strength and endurance. Imagine a redheaded woman who looks like a supermodel bench pressing 800 pounds. While some cosmic entities like Eternity, Death, and the Beyonder are probably more powerful, she's right up there with Celestials, Galactus and his Heralds, Elders of the Universe. She's fully capable of taking down Gladiator, the Superman Expy of the Shi'ar Imperial Guard, singlehandedly. (His name is "Kallark")

So yes, having a Class1000 I win key is bad for a game.

Now non-Phoenix Jean is more reasonable and every once in while she doesn't have access to the Phoenix. But still, even without those powers she's very formidable. Her power levels as Marvel Girl have varied over the years but even a low-powered Jean is not someone you want to mess with.

As for Ms. Marvel being a Valley girl, neither Ms. Marvel had that personality though the Danvers version could be a bit flamboyant at times.

It's nice they have Storm's Mohawk costume... though I favor her White and the "I have a Halle Berry haircut" version. They even have the Silver Centurion Armor for Iron Man. No Captain Universe Spidey or or the Red-Gold Phoenix or movie inspired black outfit for Jean Grey though

What bugs me most about this game is that even though it's developers have openly stated it was inspired by Marvel Ultimate Alliance, which isn't a bad game,and has action centric combat like SOE's DCU... there is no console version.

Arcadia Codesmith

Major Carol Danvers, USAF, CIA, NASA, SHIELD? Fer sure.

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