Janine "Iris Ophelia" Hawkins' ongoing review of gaming and virtual world style
If you've got questions about what the changes to the Second Life Terms of Service mean for your IP rights and your virtual content, then Justitia Legal Resource Village [SLURL] is running just the event for you. Tomorrow at 10am SLT, a panel of RL IP attorneys will be sitting down to discuss what the changes to the ToS mean for you, as well as answering questions from the audience.
Justitia, if you aren't already aware, is a sim designed to be a legal resource for virtual world users, primarily concerned with virtual world issues including IP rights. It's the pet project of a few Second Life users who practice law by day and use Second Life by night, including Vaki Zenovka. While Vaki might be more well known for her stunning fashion photography, her alt Agenda Faromet is a member of the SL bar Association and handles many events like this at Justitia. She even spoke with Hamlet earlier this month about how the new addition to SL's Terms of Service could be changed to serve it's purpose without the dangerously broad wording it currently has.
If you're at all concerned about this subject, this panel is a must. If the timing is an obstacle for you, let them know, as Vaki's stated that if demand is high they may hold a second panel for those unable to attend the first. Either way, be sure to check out this post on Vaki's blog for all the details.
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Posted by: Vaki | Friday, October 18, 2013 at 11:54 AM
What is the HyperGrid address for the meeting?
Posted by: Lani Global | Friday, October 18, 2013 at 03:19 PM
If anyone was at all interested in the Linden Lab TOS (Terms of Service) they would have left as I did some number of years ago. Not sure why this should be big news to anyone. Linden stated many years ago in more than a few ways that they owned the content. And regardless of public opinion or legal counsel considering the matters ... It's quite obvious it was over a long time ago. No matter the resulting consequence concerning those that never believed what was saw and stated during the vast and furious terms of service changes by Linden Lab.
Linden never cared about their customers in the very early stages, they certainly don't care about them now. Nothing will change it, no court, not a group of lawyers that think they can figure it all out.
It's over. Just as Second Life might as well be your third.
--ohYeah
Posted by: Anon | Friday, October 18, 2013 at 09:44 PM
Linden Lab will dance at the pole in the attic just as prophesied in years past. Just as stated. They indeed, will dance and understand the pole in the attic.
Dance Here .... ? Yes. You will dance here Linden Lab. Just as prophesied of the 1/3 loss, you have much more to learn as you continue to rape and pillage.
SEER
Posted by: Seer | Friday, October 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM
Any service provided on the internet needs certain rights, some of them indefinite, otherwise back-ups get difficult. Removing a particular item from all back-ups is risky.
I'm not going to attend the meeting, since I am not an active creator, but I shall read the transcript with keen interest.
There does seem to be some murky stuff associated with how the no-notice rule came into effect. Under the old system, there would have been 30-days notice. The new no-notice rule was stated to take effect immediately, which seems dodgy to me. Had 30 days notice still applied, concerned Residents would have had a chance to remove their content.
But that's programmer/engineering thinking coming through. I am not a lawyer.
I know Inara Pey has provided examples of similar, even identical, wording on the part of other services, which suggests some legal boilerplate exists. In my experience, such things are a starting point for negotiation between the parties, but we're not allowed to negotiate in this case.
Posted by: Wolf Baginski | Saturday, October 19, 2013 at 01:50 AM
They change the location for this discussion. Now it is at the Rose Theatre Opera House (same time).
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Angel%20Manor/161/215/29
Posted by: Maddy Gynoid | Saturday, October 19, 2013 at 06:57 AM
We could not reach that location via HyperGrid.
Posted by: Lani Global | Saturday, October 19, 2013 at 03:55 PM
I can't help thinking that some content creators will give LL a taste of their own medicine and simply start ignoring the ToS. How many prims, textures, and scripts are there in SL now? Tens of millions? LL can't even effectively police a few thousand avatars these days, much less navigate that colossal ocean of data sloshing around their servers.
LL can scream all they want about those ones and zeros belonging to them; everyone else will just point and laugh.
Posted by: Riesstu | Sunday, October 20, 2013 at 11:26 AM
Choose a walk out date. Close your Sims. Flood every venue with your demands. It is your work.
Posted by: whatever | Sunday, October 20, 2013 at 11:23 PM
@ Anon, if you've been gone for years, why the hell are you hanging around blogs about SL?
Posted by: 2013 | Monday, October 21, 2013 at 04:31 AM
For those like myself who were not around SL this weekend, any summaries of what occurred at the meeting?
Oh and 2013: Heh... yeah, always wonder about the folks who "leave" a place and then troll it ever after. That's not leaving.
Posted by: Pussycat Catnap | Monday, October 21, 2013 at 09:15 AM
" @ Anon, if you've been gone for years, why the hell are you hanging around blogs about SL?"
Simple. nwn.blogs.com doesn't cover just SL. There is a whole lot covered here besides the SL saga and its' demise.
Yeahp!
Posted by: Anon | Friday, October 25, 2013 at 05:31 PM