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Friday, October 18, 2013

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Vaki

You rock my world, Iris.

Lani Global

What is the HyperGrid address for the meeting?

Anon

If anyone was at all interested in the Linden Lab TOS (Terms of Service) they would have left as I did some number of years ago. Not sure why this should be big news to anyone. Linden stated many years ago in more than a few ways that they owned the content. And regardless of public opinion or legal counsel considering the matters ... It's quite obvious it was over a long time ago. No matter the resulting consequence concerning those that never believed what was saw and stated during the vast and furious terms of service changes by Linden Lab.

Linden never cared about their customers in the very early stages, they certainly don't care about them now. Nothing will change it, no court, not a group of lawyers that think they can figure it all out.

It's over. Just as Second Life might as well be your third.

--ohYeah

Seer

Linden Lab will dance at the pole in the attic just as prophesied in years past. Just as stated. They indeed, will dance and understand the pole in the attic.

Dance Here .... ? Yes. You will dance here Linden Lab. Just as prophesied of the 1/3 loss, you have much more to learn as you continue to rape and pillage.

SEER

Wolf Baginski

Any service provided on the internet needs certain rights, some of them indefinite, otherwise back-ups get difficult. Removing a particular item from all back-ups is risky.

I'm not going to attend the meeting, since I am not an active creator, but I shall read the transcript with keen interest.

There does seem to be some murky stuff associated with how the no-notice rule came into effect. Under the old system, there would have been 30-days notice. The new no-notice rule was stated to take effect immediately, which seems dodgy to me. Had 30 days notice still applied, concerned Residents would have had a chance to remove their content.

But that's programmer/engineering thinking coming through. I am not a lawyer.

I know Inara Pey has provided examples of similar, even identical, wording on the part of other services, which suggests some legal boilerplate exists. In my experience, such things are a starting point for negotiation between the parties, but we're not allowed to negotiate in this case.

Maddy Gynoid

They change the location for this discussion. Now it is at the Rose Theatre Opera House (same time).
http://slurl.com/secondlife/Angel%20Manor/161/215/29

Lani Global

We could not reach that location via HyperGrid.

Riesstu

I can't help thinking that some content creators will give LL a taste of their own medicine and simply start ignoring the ToS. How many prims, textures, and scripts are there in SL now? Tens of millions? LL can't even effectively police a few thousand avatars these days, much less navigate that colossal ocean of data sloshing around their servers.

LL can scream all they want about those ones and zeros belonging to them; everyone else will just point and laugh.

whatever

Choose a walk out date. Close your Sims. Flood every venue with your demands. It is your work.

2013

@ Anon, if you've been gone for years, why the hell are you hanging around blogs about SL?

Pussycat Catnap

For those like myself who were not around SL this weekend, any summaries of what occurred at the meeting?

Oh and 2013: Heh... yeah, always wonder about the folks who "leave" a place and then troll it ever after. That's not leaving.

Anon

" @ Anon, if you've been gone for years, why the hell are you hanging around blogs about SL?"

Simple. nwn.blogs.com doesn't cover just SL. There is a whole lot covered here besides the SL saga and its' demise.

Yeahp!

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