« This Brace-Wearing Skyrim Race Might Just Be The Weirdest User-Created Mod Yet | Main | Halloween And Christmas Meet In This Spooky Second Life Theme Park That's Filled To The Brim With Gifts »

Thursday, November 07, 2013

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

Pussycat Catnap

I want to say "BooYah!" and cheer this on too.

But I'm not so sure there is any relation between these two things.

Maybe there is, maybe not.

Certainly twitter's anonymity has kept a few hundred thousand Iranians from getting axed by their government...

Although it has more recently caved in to the French government, over people who lets face it, I have no sympathy for. But if you have a principle you need to stick by it.

(Imagine if you lawyer sold you out because one prosecutor demanded it... you could basically kiss the entire rockbed of your justice system goodbye after that.)

I'm not sure why Twitter is doing better. Might be because it just looks less spammy.

I don't think it sells better. Can you make money off of it? Not so sure, but I haven't looked. But we do know that Facebook CLAIMS to be good for advertisers, yet the anaylitics prove it sucks... That's what made Facebook do so poorly - it claimed to be better than Google, but it was little better than the local Brownie troop selling cookies outside your grocery store...

Twitter doesn't have that kind or pretension to it. And that might be the real reason.

Pseudonyms might just be a happy accident.

Ezra

A huge, huge part of Twitter's success is the exact opposite of pseudonymity and anonymity: verified accounts, and people and businesses choosing not to be anonymous.

Without verified accounts and otherwise real identities, Twitter wouldn't be a trusted news source, a point of contact for customer service, a way to interact with celebrities, politicians, etc. etc.

I don't think anonymity, pseudonymity or the lack of either has anything to do with IPOs, but maybe I guess Twitter further proves there's a lot of pros and cons to letting people identify, or don't, however they please.

Let's not gloss over though how important real identities are to Twitter.

zzpearlbottom

I can only speak for me, i use twitter and not Facebook due to that fact, i don't want any of my rl identity mixed with my internet one!

Arcadia Codesmith

It's worth noting that many of those artists, writers and celebrities supposedly posting under their "real names" are doing nothing of the sort -- they're using professional pseudonyms.

Chez Nabob

The success of Twitter's IPO had little, if anything, to do with the fact that they allow pseudonyms. Of course, they've never turned a profit either, which you'd think would be a big driver of IPO success, but clearly wasn't in this case, so I could be wrong.

More likely, the fact that they smooched Wall Street's backside, and played the game like it's supposed to be played (unlike Facebook did with its IPO) is likely what helped push the stock to a 70%-plus gain on the first day.

The investment bankers like it when a company is as open as Twitter's executives were with their books leading up to the big day. Makes the money guys feel good about the company because its management team is "serious," unlike Captain Hoodie at Facebook.

USA Today had an analysis piece on this very topic yesterday. Here's the shortened URL:

http://usat.ly/1hnEekS

But I suspect that if Twitter doesn't figure out a way to expand its user base here in the U.S., where most of its ad revenue will come from, stop hemorrhaging cash and actually, you know, turn a profit, the novelty of the IPO will wear off. Otherwise, kiss those pseudonyms goodbye.

Facebook's long-term viability as a company is MUCH better than Twitter's, though I still wouldn't own Facebook stock either.

Pussycat Catnap

Yeah what Chez said about playing along with Bablyon - that gives you money, and puts their strings on your back (which is not imply anything good about Facebook).

I think for the users of Twitter there IS value in being able to be a pseudonym or known name with ease, and at user choice - without being hassled about that choice either way you make it.

Neither side of it suffers negative platform bias.

Ciaran Laval

Twitter have it right on pseudonymity, it's not your name that's relevant, it's your interests.

I'm not sure that had anything to do with the early success of their IPO though.

Hamlet Au

One example of many: Twitter's policy on pseudonyms is a major reason why the platform has become so important during social upheavals in authoritarian countries, where preserving one's personal details is literally a matter of life and death. For that reason, it's now part of Twitter's branding that the platform to drive major social change around the world.

Pussycat Catnap

Hamlet: yes, it helped some Iranians. But then it turned around and outed posters to the French.

Sure the people it outed were sumbags - but if you're protecting identities that's not a call you can make.

And yes, that's nice and wonderful that they value privacy when its not other white folks asking them to violate it... but there's no proof that this is why they're darlings of the IPO scene right now.

correlation / causation connection is not established.

Hamlet Au

I wasn't trying to establish that connection, however.

Wolf Baginski

I don't think the IPO is a good sign of anything.

Twitter can give advertisers a good idea of what users might be interested in, and that's worth money. But, while it know, more about its users than a newspaper does about its readers, it doesn't need to know customer names. And neither does a newspaper.

So I don't think it's a big issue.

What looks bad about the IPO is the huge jump in price and the apparent risk of buying in. That suggests there is a lot of cash floating around, looking for somewhere to go.

Here in the UK, we had an IPO a month ago which had the same behaviour. It looks a safer deal than Twitter too.

At current interest levels this secure deal paid very well. Even at the current market price, it looks good.

What Twitter seems to confirm is that there is a lot of money in the markets chasing investment opportunities, and willing to accept some pretty chancy deals. I have the feeling there is a bubble.

And that's bad news.

sparky

The IPO doesn't indicate anything. It was managed better, that's all. They learned their lesson from the FB flop. It was a professional open (@46), then the dummies piled in up to nearly 50 bucks. It's done nothing but go down since.

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment

Your Information

(Name is required. Email address will not be displayed with the comment.)

Making a Metaverse That Matters Wagner James Au ad
Please buy my book!
Thumb Wagner James Au Metaverse book
Wagner James "Hamlet" Au
Wagner James Au Patreon
Equimake 3D virtual world web real time creation
Bad-Unicorn SL builds holdables HUD
Dutchie-Modular-Kitchen-Second Life
Juicybomb_EEP ad
IMG_2468
My book on Goodreads!
Wagner James Au AAE Speakers Metaverse
Request me as a speaker!
Making of Second Life 20th anniversary Wagner James Au Thumb
PC for SL
Recommended PC for SL
Macbook Second Life
Recommended Mac for SL

Classic New World Notes stories:

Woman With Parkinson's Reports Significant Physical Recovery After Using Second Life - Academics Researching (2013)

We're Not Ready For An Era Where People Prefer Virtual Experiences To Real Ones -- But That Era Seems To Be Here (2012)

Sander's Villa: The Man Who Gave His Father A Second Life (2011)

What Rebecca Learned By Being A Second Life Man (2010)

Charles Bristol's Metaverse Blues: 87 Year Old Bluesman Becomes Avatar-Based Musician In Second Life (2009)

Linden Limit Libertarianism: Metaverse community management illustrates the problems with laissez faire governance (2008)

The Husband That Eshi Made: Metaverse artist, grieving for her dead husband, recreates him as an avatar (2008)

Labor Union Protesters Converge On IBM's Metaverse Campus: Leaders Claim Success, 1850 Total Attendees (Including Giant Banana & Talking Triangle) (2007)

All About My Avatar: The story behind amazing strange avatars (2007)

Fighting the Front: When fascists open an HQ in Second Life, chaos and exploding pigs ensue (2007)

Copying a Controversy: Copyright concerns come to the Metaverse via... the CopyBot! (2006)

The Penguin & the Zookeeper: Just another unlikely friendship formed in The Metaverse (2006)

"—And He Rezzed a Crooked House—": Mathematician makes a tesseract in the Metaverse — watch the videos! (2006)

Guarding Darfur: Virtual super heroes rally to protect a real world activist site (2006)

The Skin You're In: How virtual world avatar options expose real world racism (2006)

Making Love: When virtual sex gets real (2005)

Watching the Detectives: How to honeytrap a cheater in the Metaverse (2005)

The Freeform Identity of Eboni Khan: First-hand account of the Black user experience in virtual worlds (2005)

Man on Man and Woman on Woman: Just another gender-bending avatar love story, with a twist (2005)

The Nine Souls of Wilde Cunningham: A collective of severely disabled people share the same avatar (2004)

Falling for Eddie: Two shy artists divided by an ocean literally create a new life for each other (2004)

War of the Jessie Wall: Battle over virtual borders -- and real war in Iraq (2003)

Home for the Homeless: Creating a virtual mansion despite the most challenging circumstances (2003)

Newstex_Author_Badge-Color 240px
JuicyBomb_NWN5 SL blog
Ava Delaney SL Blog
my site ... ... ...
Virtual_worlds_museum_NWN