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Monday, December 02, 2013

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Val kendal

You know, I played the RPG Dragon Age 2 a year or so ago, and in that game the main character can be male or female, if you're female you don't wear skimpy armor, you can have 'romances' with both male or female NPCs (which is also apparently true if you play the male lead), there are female NPCs in positions of power in the world, and you can create a party entirely of tough chicks if you want. Not once did I feel like that game insulted me in some subtle or unsubtle way, and I noticed all those things so much it made me wonder why more gaming experiences aren't like that (and I will totally be throwing my money at the next version of the franchise because of it).

Sjöfn Stoneshield

Internet and computer games exposes hidden problems of society. The terrible attitude to women that come to light is nothing special about the game world it lives and thrives very well in society, but a little more into obscurity.
That it comes to light helps us feminists to combat sexism.
We must all realize that computer games are not a separate part of society but an extension of the community. The values ​​that appear in the video games come out of a human brain.
Sjöfn Stoneshield
Doctor of Psychology

Arcadia Codesmith

I wish I'd written that. Austin deserves hugs.

Archangel Mortenwold

You know, there ARE guys who knit. My father, back when he still had full use of his hands, used to do latch-hook knitting as it was a form of physical therapy. He also did crafts like making reindeer decorations out of sticks and thistle-wreaths. The problem with leaping to conclusions is that it can lead to reaching erroneous ones. I've done it myself and have had to retract and apologize for what I wrote.

Labyrinth

I'm amazed noone ever comments about the sexism by default of the men themselves by themselves. While women may be left out of the picture the stereotypical groove of men as ever violent and meaningless adrenaline junkies is made ever deeper.

Silly Rabbit

We ignore evolutionary biology at our own peril, Dr. Stoneshield. When academia finally admits that behavior is 85% innate, and provides society with the sociological constructs necessary to understanding such genetic determinism, we may actually begin to make progress as human beings.

In brief Doctor, human behavior is not a reflection of societal mores, it is actually the other way around...

Pussycat Catnap

According to Polygon, this whole gender-bias in games is a lot newer than people think:
http://www.polygon.com/features/2013/12/2/5143856/no-girls-allowed
Mostly a product of the 90s, though started by Nintendo in the 80s.

Several of the bigger gaming hits have been played by mostly women: Myst, Bejeweled, Sim this or that, and others. And many have been gender neutral, like Tetris and Windows Solitaire.

The bias is manufactured - a product of marketing.

Though I also look back to the source material of many game developers: Dungeons and Dragons - and see that aspects of racial and sex bias predate video games, and have merely been carried through.

Arcadia Codesmith

Evolutionary psychology is phrenology for the new millennium. It's pseudoscience, untested and untestable assumptions parading as hypotheses, when it's not just thinly-veiled racism, sexism and homophobia. The degree to which evolutionary psychologists are blinded by their immersion in their own cultural milieu would be merely pathetic were it not so laced with hubris.

They might as well invoke astronomy or alchemy to discredit social justice.

Pussycat Catnap

@Arcadia Codesmith:

We need to stop agreeing all up in here. Its just not natural. :)

@White Rabbit:

Leave the pills to Alice please.

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