Comments on Why Jenn Frank's Back Writing About Games & Second Life - Despite Gamergate (NWN Guest Post)TypePad2014-12-18T20:00:20ZSLHamlethttps://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://nwn.blogs.com/nwn/2014/12/why-jenn-frank-writing-despite-gamergate/comments/atom.xml/irihapeti commented on 'Why Jenn Frank's Back Writing About Games & Second Life - Despite Gamergate (NWN Guest Post)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef01b8d0aebb60970c2014-12-22T02:13:01Z2014-12-22T02:13:01Zirihapetii dont get it Carl you once moved against those in NCI who chose to express themselfs in reactionary ways....<p>i dont get it Carl</p>
<p>you once moved against those in NCI who chose to express themselfs in reactionary ways. Reactionaries faking it as freedom to express themselfs in any old hedonistic, disruptive ways they chose. And nevermind the consequences for their victims. Those they tormented</p>
<p>now you saying the opposite seems like. You were right back then Carl. It was right the stand you took then</p>
<p>i never been back to NCI ever since you were forced out by them reactionaries. They were ugly people then and still are now</p>
<p>you can split hairs (and say this is all about the evol medias) if you want and try think this is somehow different. Is not</p>
<p>Ugly is ugly. Gamergate is ugly</p>Ciaran Laval commented on 'Why Jenn Frank's Back Writing About Games & Second Life - Despite Gamergate (NWN Guest Post)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef01b8d0ad9b32970c2014-12-20T00:47:52Z2014-12-20T00:47:52ZCiaran Lavalhttp://sl.governormarley.com/It's a shame that you retired and I hope you reconsider. I look forward to seeing more of your posts...<p>It's a shame that you retired and I hope you reconsider. I look forward to seeing more of your posts here.</p>Carl Metropolitan commented on 'Why Jenn Frank's Back Writing About Games & Second Life - Despite Gamergate (NWN Guest Post)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef01b8d0ad9499970c2014-12-19T23:36:55Z2014-12-19T23:36:55ZCarl Metropolitanhttp://jcarlhenders.tumblr.com/Hamlet Au wrote: "Gamergate, the small but zealous "activist" group generally seen as a reactionary backlash against feminist and socially...<p>Hamlet Au wrote: "Gamergate, the small but zealous "activist" group generally seen as a reactionary backlash against feminist and socially progressive elements in the game industry."</p>
<p>The only reason Gamergate has been "generally seen" in a negative light is that the gaming media and mainstream media have consistently lied about it. As Gamergate began as a consumer revolt against corrupt media practices in the gaming media, it's not surprising. Gaming and mainstream media have continually attributed actions of a small number of dedicated internet trolls to the entire Gamergate movement, ignoring all efforts by Gamergate to oppose them. At the same time, continual harassment, threats, and blacklisting by prominent people on anti-Gamergate side are either never covered, or worse, justified. </p>
<p>The media has no mercy for those that cross it.</p>
<p>Much to their horor, Gamergate doesn't give a shit.</p>
<p>While Gamergate has no leaders, and no organization, generally speaking most people involved are committed to the goals of opposing corrupt media, pushing back against bullying by "internet Social Justice Warrior" types, and protecting free expression for gamers and game developers. Gamergate voices have spoken out strongly against efforts to suppress games with controversial content (such as "Grand Theft Auto V" and "Hatred"). </p>
<p>I welcome Jenn Frank back to Second Life and to New World Notes, but she should be aware that many of the people she thinks of as her allies are coming after safe "space for investigating certain taboos", and those in Gamergate that she thinks of as her enemies will be the ones defending those spaces.<br />
</p>Vivienne Daguerre commented on 'Why Jenn Frank's Back Writing About Games & Second Life - Despite Gamergate (NWN Guest Post)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef01b7c723a272970b2014-12-19T14:21:35Z2014-12-19T14:21:35ZVivienne Daguerrehttp://MyBlackRose.netI have enjoyed your videos. It makes me glad to see that the feminist spirit still lives and thrives. I...<p>I have enjoyed your videos. It makes me glad to see that the feminist spirit still lives and thrives. I was born in the 1950s, and through much of my childhood I heard what I could and could not do because I was "a girl." I fought against that for most of my life. In the Canadian military, I was the second in my tech trade across the country, and the first at both of my postings. I could write a book on harassment. The only good thing about banging your head against a wall is that it feels so good when you stop. After that, I made my career working in Corrections, 18 years in federal male institutions. It is a sad thing to say, but I received better treatment from criminals than I did from the men of our Canadian Armed Forces. </p>
<p>I am happily retired now. I wonder how much better things are now for women than when I was young. I suspect they are, but not as much as I had hoped they would be.</p>
<p>The women of my generation pass you the torch. Hold it high.</p>Paul commented on 'Why Jenn Frank's Back Writing About Games & Second Life - Despite Gamergate (NWN Guest Post)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef01b8d0ace5e1970c2014-12-19T04:51:06Z2014-12-19T04:51:06ZPaulThis is my first time to the site, and having a regular column by Jenn Frank means it won't be...<p>This is my first time to the site, and having a regular column by Jenn Frank means it won't be my last. Can't wait!</p>David Cartier commented on 'Why Jenn Frank's Back Writing About Games & Second Life - Despite Gamergate (NWN Guest Post)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef01bb07c7f735970d2014-12-19T03:29:52Z2014-12-19T03:29:52ZDavid CartierThis is such a good thing; such a good place for us to be. It's somehow appropriate that she's writing...<p>This is such a good thing; such a good place for us to be. It's somehow appropriate that she's writing about Second Life. It would be nice if we could just laugh at everything that was said and written, but a few very sick individuals took it way past there. Maybe the gaming community is ready to move past it.</p>Yesplease commented on 'Why Jenn Frank's Back Writing About Games & Second Life - Despite Gamergate (NWN Guest Post)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef01b8d0acb41f970c2014-12-18T23:26:27Z2014-12-18T23:26:27ZYespleasesorry I mean excited trepidation<p>sorry I mean excited trepidation</p>Yesplease commented on 'Why Jenn Frank's Back Writing About Games & Second Life - Despite Gamergate (NWN Guest Post)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef01b8d0acb40c970c2014-12-18T23:25:01Z2014-12-18T23:25:01ZYespleaseOh I am simply beside myself with trepidation.<p>Oh I am simply beside myself with trepidation. </p>Wagner James Au commented on 'Why Jenn Frank's Back Writing About Games & Second Life - Despite Gamergate (NWN Guest Post)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef01b8d0acb288970c2014-12-18T23:10:44Z2014-12-18T23:10:44ZWagner James AuAgreed on all counts -- it's like a Festivus miracle!<p>Agreed on all counts -- it's like a Festivus miracle!</p>Ray commented on 'Why Jenn Frank's Back Writing About Games & Second Life - Despite Gamergate (NWN Guest Post)'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf74053ef01bb07c7d0ea970d2014-12-18T22:41:43Z2014-12-18T22:41:43ZRayWhat a get by NWN. Jenn Frank is one of the best writers out there. I was incredibly bummed out...<p>What a get by NWN. Jenn Frank is one of the best writers out there. I was incredibly bummed out when she took a hiatus, but life is good because she is BACK.</p>