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Wednesday, April 29, 2015


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Ciaran Laval

The implementation was abysmal.

There's a good article about this over at Gamasutra :



Skyrim was always going to just be one game apart of Workshop. This is Bethesda pulling Skyrim, not Valve cancelling Workshop.

Were I to bet, I'd say Valve's already in works with other developers on existing and brand new games to add workshop support for free and paid mods. I'd bet also the new Source engine that Valve announced at GDC is in some way going to make it easier if not brain dead simple for developers using that engine to hook into Workshop.

In the end, this will probably result in a loss for the Skyrim community only. Sure, there's concerns that went beyond Skyrim like profit splits; but this is Valve we're talking about who's been amenable to such issues in the past, like with Greenlight's fees. Between Valve's cut and the cut publisher's set, that 25% was going to be the worst seen.

Issa Heckroth

I think people all over the web have already answered the question posed by Hivemind.

Would a "donate/support" button be so hard? Most people want to be able to support their fave modders. Thats not in question.

What pissed people off was the huge cut Valve and Beth were taking. Bethesda especially should be ASHAMED of themselves. They have done a lot of damage to their modding community with this.

CronoCloud Creeggan

Issa wrote: Would a "donate/support" button be so hard?

But there already WAS such a button on the Nexus site...and very few people used it! Didn't you read what Iris wrote?

Issa wrote: What pissed people off was the huge cut Valve and Beth were taking.

That was just a lame and fake excuse. It's THEIR sandbox they're letting modders play in, their rules. What really pissed people was that they want to be entertained without paying for it, as Iris said.

Issa wrote: Bethesda especially should be ASHAMED of themselves.

PC Gamers should be ashamed at their cheap, pirating, wants everything for free, ways.

Issa Heckroth

First Point - fair enough. However I still say a donation button in the Steam workshop couldnt hurt, right? More options to donate the better.

Second point - No. People already paid for the game, DLC and expansion packs. 75% to Valve & Beth is ridiculous no matter how you slice it. No doubt, everyone likes to be entertained for free, but for "production quality" mods I would pay if the price was reasonable.

Third Point - Head over to the SLU "Mesh Police" thread if you think I am in favor of pirates and against paying for things. Thats just slander. Grow up.

zz bottom

Im glad i was on betsheda when there was mods for Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3 and when nobody would even think of selling their mods cause all they cared was to see them being used and enjoyed.
How did society changed along this last years to think only in profits and to disregard some who dares just to share their creations with others just for the pleasure of doing so.


Paids mods are back with Bethesda's Fallout 4. What do you think about it?

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