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Tuesday, July 14, 2015

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Metacam Oh

Does any of this take into account that desktops don't need to be replaced as much anymore and tablets and phones do? I think the death of the PC is majorly exaggerated, mostly here on this blog. I still use my PCs as much as I sued to and haven't bought a new one in at least 5 years, but Ive had to upgrade my mobile and tablet few times since then because they release upgrades incrementally.

Cube Republic

Desktop pc will always be evolving, there's a need for a faster machine for productivity. Also why do they always release new cards and chips if the platform is dead. Do these charts take into account home-brew machines constructed from separate parts? If you have an i7 from the last 5 years, all you will need to do is change the gpu to play the latest and greatest.

sirhc desantis

So from that graph - tablets totally vanish in 2015 and in 2016 everything else is at 500 plus tablets re appear by magic? cool. very good to know

Ciaran Laval

The processing power is moving from the client to the server. VDI solutions are on the rise and that's what mobile will take advantage of.

Cube Republic

There will always be a need for a large screen.

Carlos Loff

If you ever thought PC is going to die or PC Gaming is going to die, there is no need to argue why it wont die - Just Google - Star Citizen - and start thinking about your next top gaming PC

CronoCloud Creeggan

What metacam said!

Also, where did you get the idea that next-gen (actually current gen) consoles are plateauing. The PS4 is selling at higher rates than the PS2 did at this point in it's life. It has reached 20 million in sales FASTER than the PS2 did.

zz bottom

Like some said, i have 3 desktop computers, being upgraded when i need to, the younger one, over 3 years old, so why doubt desktop computers are dying.
Id some can happen is that buyers no long got folled and buy a brand desktop but modable ones, where any can change components when needed.

zz bottom

And btw, Win Xp is still working flawless in 2 of my computers, so the fact that msn tried to kill it, it does not mean it will end sooner.

Wagner James Au

"The PS4 is selling at higher rates than the PS2 did at this point in it's life. It has reached 20 million in sales FASTER than the PS2 did."

After being on the market for almost 10 years, the PS3 only has an install base of 80 million -- roughly half the PS2's base. What makes you think the PS4 will do any better?

Cube Republic

only 80 million? Wish I had 80 million customers.

Iggy

Studebaker vehicles won't die. I saw one, a nicely restored pickup from the late 50s, at a dealer nearby.

There will always be a need for little round-cab pickup trucks.

Metacam Oh

Just looked up Star Citizen as suggested by Carlos above, and wow looks awesome.

I dont think the PC is dying, Hamlet has been making posts like this for years

David

I'm pretty sure one big reason PC sales are declining are because most everyone already has one. It's not because the PC is dying.

CronoCloud Creeggan

Hamlet, I expect the PS4 to do better since it IS doing better than the PS3. It IS selling at a better rate than the PS3 (which I expected) AND surprisingly, the PS2. As I've said before Hamlet, you can't trust the VR Hype spouting Valleywags on these sorts of things.

And as was said, 80 million for the PS3 is nothing to sneeze at.


Wolkenreiter

As it's been said before, PC gamers traditionally build their own PCs or have them custom-built by someone else. The typical Dell or Walmart-PC customer have always been businesses or the moms and grandmas... Which is not the relevant audience for early adoption of VR hardware, obviously.
On the other hand: VR and streaming? Not gonna happen, never ever! Why? A major share of Oculus' efforts have gone into reducing latency between player input and visual feedback, in order to achieve a convincing VR experience without causing motion sickness. A latency of 20ms is generally considered critical for VR. With a streaming solution, even with the servers being in the same country, you will hardly get a network latency below 30ms, and that's just the network, not counting other factors along the chain. Realistically achievable latencies for game streaming are between 60 and 100ms, which has already rendered streaming for fast paced games useless (and thus killed OnLive). For VR it's even more of a technical limit, and I don't see that improving anytime soon. History has shown that latency tends to even increase with new technology, rather than getting lower...

Shockwave Yareach

One, just because PC sales are down doesn't mean there are fewer pcs out there. My own PC is four years old. I planned and built it with an eye to the future so the triple channel i7 meant for HD video editing is still more than good enough today.

There are six pcs in my house. There are four cells. The mobiles play simple games but for WoW the kids go to a PC. For anything more intense than Facebook we go to a PC. Just because we use handcrafted gear instead of a HP mcbox so you don't note it and we run machines for years doesn't mean the PC is dead in our house.

Cube Republic

All the devices Hamlet mentions are personal computers. A phone, a tablet, an ipad; all personal computers. So how are personal computers dead exactly? Devices are getting smaller and more powerful, so what point is being made in this article?

It's like saying flight is dead at the beginning of the 20th century because they stopped using paper bi-planes.

Ajax Manatiso

Just goes to show how deceptive raw statistics can be. People upgrade their phones as soon as a new version comes out which they don't do with PCs. Also you can upgrade the hardware on PCs which you can't do on phones, getting a few more years of usability. And -- have you ever heard of someone ditching their PC because their phone was so great?

Ajax Manatiso

Just goes to show how deceptive raw statistics can be. People upgrade their phones as soon as a new version comes out which they don't do with PCs. Also you can upgrade the hardware on PCs which you can't do on phones, getting a few more years of usability. And -- have you ever heard of someone ditching their PC because their phone was so great?

Ajax Manatiso

Just goes to show how deceptive raw statistics can be. People upgrade their phones as soon as a new version comes out which they don't do with PCs. Also you can upgrade the hardware on PCs which you can't do on phones, getting a few more years of usability. And -- have you ever heard of someone ditching their PC because their phone was so great?

irihapeti

what Cube said about everything

phones are getting more powerful

stick it into a big screen dock. or Bluetooth (or similar) it even, and we good to go

that our phone is smaller and more easy portable doesnt make it not a PC (personal computing device). It just makes the box smaller

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what I think will be the VR devices for the masses isn't full on headset masks. The device will be something similar to ordinary ish lens (in a glasses form for wearable purposes)

That will connect to big screen boxes with full on computer caps. the big screen box also containing the high-speed connector to the server. A multi-user device. So that 2 or more people looking at the same screen can manipulate their own character/view

glasses that detect where your eyes are looking. glasses to screen connection being local wireless

a pressure device as well for our hands

the glasses and pressure device (and optionally voice to text) being the new input devices. instead of keyboard and mouse

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then the next step after that will be holo projectors viewed/manipulated thru the glasses

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basically the near future commercially (like next 7 years) for the masses is really only about changing the input devices I think

Krinkles Q. Klown

The world is getting more mobile you say? No!

New virtual worlds need to run on less powerful hardware, you say? Really? I'd never imagined.

Someday rich immersive environments will be available on mobile devices that equal gaming environments like consoles and full bore computers.

The tech has a way to go on that yet. Desktops have their place. For sheer computing power, they're needed (you really think CGI for movies and television can be done on a tablet? It takes an array of very powerful systems to do that stuff to the tune of hundreds to thousands of person-hours and a f*ck-ton of CPU/GPU time. You need graphics power to render that stuff. Yes, you could get an array of servers to do it but you still need people in front of hi-res monitors watching the process).

For the majority of purposes, mobile will be fine. The desktop has its place as does server-side processing (isn't a server a more powerful desktop with a shared set of human interface devices and built for racks rather than pretty?)

Last time I checked, Grand Theft Auto doesn't run in a cell phone and would be slower than sh*t if it did.

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