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Friday, January 22, 2016

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Vulcan Viper

Let me see if I got this straight.

Linden Lab is OK with Second Life being categorized as a game, when Philip Rosedale himself said "Second Life is different than a game, because there isn't any goal."???

Wagner James Au

Philip Rosedale himself also spoke about Second Life at the GAME Developers Conference and often compared SL user growth with Sims Online. :)

Ezra

So long as all your examples of Second Life being a game is people calling it a game without citing any actual gameplay features, I dunno what your point is.

You've been put to task before to name your favorite Second Life game feature, and you cited a talking weed plant on your abandoned parcel.

Plus, you're the guy always raging about Linden Lab adding gameplay features to Second Life, which it wouldn't need if it already had 'em.

You could call Second Life Excel if you wanted, it doesn't change what it actually is once you open the viewer. The danger remains of calling Second Life a "game" is mismanaging expectations of people invited to try it, it's a setup for disappointment when a person looking for a game, doesn't find gameplay. Minecraft and the Sims have gameplay.

If you want to be a games blogger, pivot like Iris. Your attempts to be one through Second Life the last decade has only resulted in posts like these.

Orca Flotta

I just cannot understand why some peple are still trying to get the game moniker stick on SL, despite overwhelming evidences of it not being a game. What's wrong with people nowadays that they can't properly reflect and define anymore. This is not a willpower over matter question, the old warhorse will never become a contender in the Kentucky Derby, no matter how hard you wish for it. And with LL's history of wrong statement and fasle decisions we all know how much validity is in their latest nonsense statement.

Second Life is a VW, period.


Good day.


I said Good Day!

CronoCloud Creeggan

Ezra and Orca right, Hamlet.

Just because some game related website lists SL as a game, or Philip speaking at GDC or whatever, doesn't make SL a game.

It's a virtual world platform. It's like a table, you can eat on a table, but a table isn't food. You can play games on a table, but the table itself isn't a game, it just lets you play games on it.

patchouli woollahra

SL is a video game only to the extent that its functionality allows for the indulgence of whimsy or desire for fun in its ludological or paideic forms. But in the end, instead of screaming at each other about how SL is (isn't) a game, it's probably better if you lot just pipe down and focused on what truly entertains you in SL whether it's going to cosy concerts, poetry slams in remote balconies, or wargames in Jessie, because we are never going to get each other to see the other side's argument barring a massive intelligence capable of putting two juxtaposed and conflicting arguments together without having brain funk.

I'm not calling you dumb, I'm just saying you're not geniuses.

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:)

Carlos Loff

So LL is ok with being ridiculously reduced to a game, really sad, guess they never cared about it's potential, it is just a money mine

Shockwave Yareach

The fact that not even LL - the creators of SL - are capable of comprehending what they've created and how important it could be to history itself, dumbfounded me. Yes, it is a game in as far as nothing here has consequences. But it is also a computer simulation, virtual sandbox, and mass media service. It can be lots of things - what you get is what you want to get.

In short, it is not a single thing but many things at once. A virtual world if you will. And if they would treat it as a virtual world instead of a B2b program, or a replacement for the World Wide Web, and fix how they treat their customers, maybe they'd have more success.

Call it a game. It has game qualities sure. But it is still much more than that. And the detail that is lost on LL is the reason customers are leaving and not coming back.

Shockwave Yareach

Aren't capable. Sorry

Kween KleoKatra  (@KweenKleoKatra)

The reason they are "OK" with being called a game is because of the popularity of gaming. Ya can't be all things to all people. We degrade as we upgrade. People want instant. It ceases to amaze me that instead of promoting what it is, they would want to be what they're not. *sighsI

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