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Monday, August 23, 2021

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Adeon Writer

What exactly just happened, and who said exactly what happened would happen exactly how it happened? https://i.imgur.com/x966olT.png

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Wagner James Au

Well good call!

Robin Lobo

Imagines soon seeing long lines of machines all 'stuck' on that item nobody wants
:)

Bia

Would the items still be transfer though? Because it’d suck to buy items you don’t want just to get to the one you want and be stuck with a load of crappy items you couldn’t resell..

Sanny Yoshikawa

I simply don't understand why Second Life needs to have strict gacha regulations. I grew up in the land of gacha and have been playing it since I was a child. In Japan, even ice cream and vending machines come with raffles. The Japanese company Bandai has capsule toy shops in the US. Is that regulated too?

Mush

I'd have probably bought one too but the fatpack is L$1000. How about setting one up so we can choose the colour we'd like. The irony.

Chic Aeon

I am not sure that I have this in my mind correctly but it SOUNDS like if someone was trying for a certain RARE say and was willing to keep buying the things that they don't want in hopes that their item of choice shows up in the list EVENTUALLY (note this is VERY much like a traditional gacha) ....


it seems like another person could easily buy the item out from under the person who had been giving up lindens in hopes of getting to that item that they SIMPLY MUST HAVE. Someone could even be hiding in the wings so an unsuspecting (insert name of new game here) wouldn't know they had to be lickety split in their buying.

It appears very much to me like a gacha machine and a lucky board were getting it on in a bad dream and produced "the new non-gacha but pretty much acts LIKE a gacha" baby . Certainly not my thing; even worse than the gacha machines in my mind . I do think it sounds like it would get past the gambling police though :D.

And to Hamlet this sentence isn't all that clear for folks that haven't been following along: Those that haven't [developed conveyer machines] will have to close down their gacha operations.

EVERYONE has to close down their gacha op0erations :D. It is what happens to the goods that were previously in the gacha machines that is in question and whether creators will "repurpose" (LL's term) the items in some way or retire them.

Some creators are simply planning on selling them as regular no copy - transfer items or in copy fatpacks.

Oh the things we do to keep our additions.

Adeon Writer

@Chic

These machines typically have a lockout after buying to give you an exclusive chance to buy whatever is shown next. Though this isn't a very long window, in order to pressure you into an impulse buy if someone else is around.

And yeah, it's gacha in all but name, as I said it would be.

Is it different enough? Yes. This is exactly what Valve did when French banned lootboxes. By showing players what was in the next box if they bought it, French law was 100% ok with it.

Fionalein

No Adeon, you didn't predict it, you encouraged them. You posted this idea everywhere...

sirhc desantis

Fionalein is right* young Writer. You have been whoring this idea for weeks over at the official (including noting that you will make anything anyone asks for) =^^=
Should note I have a cunning plan for something that I may even get off my furry bottom to release

*they often are.

Chic Aeon

That is a little bit better scenario than what I understood from the post.

So whoever is playing can KEEP playing without anyone elbowing in on their "run" as long as they do it immediately? The question is -- are ALL machines going to be that way are are some going to let anyone in? And would / will folks know which kind of machine they are playing?


And even if someone (anyone or ones) were touting the idea around, it isn't all that original an idea. I think it is a fair guess that a LOT of people thought of the same type of thing all on their own. It does seem to satisfy LL's criteria, so we'll see. Not going to be MY thing though.

On the sorta if we've gotta really find a silver lining thing, showing the upcoming products will expose some of the gacha makers who had their rares SO VERY RARE that I never ever got one. Some gacha machines you can see the chances of rares, others not. So perhaps they will be "encouraged" to change their business plan :D.

I am happy to be retiring my gachas. I have made a really pretty Fall park to take up the space where the gacha building WAS - LOL.

Adeon Writer

> No Adeon, you didn't predict it, you encouraged them. You posted this idea everywhere...

While I'd love to take credit for it, I had nothing to do with it. It was inevitable, to anyone who's been following lootboxes from before SL was involved. (Yes, Gachas/Lootboxes are synonymous). I was just doing Linden a favor giving them a month in advance to say it wasn't allowed, if that's what they wanted.

Would suck if they'd only found out about it with the public announcement and didn't actually want it.

But now everyone can rest assured: If Linden didn't want it, they'd have said so a nearly a month ago.

sirhc desantis

Ser little Writer - care to discuss inworld? As would be interesting to see how - interpretation - matches reality. You know how to find me.
As always outside is easy - inworld it is a little more true. Oddly. Asking for someone I never thought I might agree on things but we all grow.

Stella Gotcha

This is still a gambling system only difference is you know the first 11 numbers. It's still a gamble to get that rare to fall into the queue of 11 numbers you're still taking a chance on that rare showing up so you're still gambling.

_MochaTheDog_

The fact that there's even a rarity shows that there's still a chance-based probability behind them.

cakey

this is so stupid from a seller standpoint so now only one person can buy from your machine at a time not multiple people meaning you make less money. If a machine is on something nobody wants its gonna be stuck like that until someone has the money to waste. why not just sell the damn items all seperately it doesnt make sense lol

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