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Wednesday, February 15, 2023


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Scylla Rhiadra

So, let's consider the implications of this analogy (which is not a new one).

China, which is a hostile power, is collecting information -- "spying" -- on the US and possibly Canada. But their response to the balloons is, you are implying, unreasonable, because they are also using other means of espionage?

So, by way of this analogy, Bonnie Bots is similarly spying on residents in SL, without our permission and against the express wishes of many of us, but responding to them is also "unreasonable" because, as unwanted as their invasive data harvesting is, it's no worse than what other people are doing, and at least they're being "open" about it?

Is it your argument that the US and Canada should simply allow the Chinese to continue to spy using balloons, because they're at least in the open, and just supplementing other means of espionage?

And that we should similarly simply shrug about the harvesting of our data by Bonnie Bots, because, while it is also "hostile," or at least unwanted by a great many of us, other people are also collecting our data using more clandestine means?

I can't respond to that which I don't know is happening. But if I see someone doing something obnoxious, I would be stupid not to act against it.

The implication that Bonnie Bots is open and above board about this "spying" is also highly questionable. There's actually not a whole lot of transparency here.

What information about our avatars and our activities are they collecting and storing in their database? Do they have complete records of where we have been, when, and with whom? Are they retaining an ongoing, dynamic record of that info, over time? Are they tracking changes to our profiles? What, now that they have been compelled -- oops, sorry! "chosen" to remove their original "Avatar Search" from the web source, are they intending to do with that data?

Actually, maybe you're right. Should we push this analogy to its logical conclusion?

Is it time to shoot Bonnie Bots out of the sky?

Sam Rougefeu

"Is it time to shoot Bonnie Bots out of the sky?"
If we allow damage on our land can we do that?
It might be a new hobby, we could have competitive bot shooting!

Scylla Rhiadra

@Sam -- Well, as someone who is committed to non-violent responses to social problems, I'm not sure I myself could really endorse such an extreme solution.


On the other hand (and granted, of course, the consent of Bonnie Bots themselves), it might ensure that they actually were contributing something worthwhile to the grid?

Maybe offer prizes to those who bag the most each week? BonnieBots.com could keep a running score on their web site!

Jacques Mesrine

Oh, the "Chinese Communist Party" itself managed to float a balloon?
I wonder which comrades were involved.
Could have been the PLA or MSS, instead?


Bonnie Bots must go!


What people forget, is that Linden Lab sees no potential harm in this. It is no different than other classic data scraping methods, and I agree. Where the concern should lie is if the Bonnies were operated by Facebook, Google, Amazon, or Microsoft. Doesn't it concern anyone that FAANG has enough data on society to gag a maggot? All of the Bonnies data is open and public. I can't even fathom what Google or Facebook know about me. As for the CCP? Smile and wave for the camera.

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