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sirhc desantis

:) the bot blocking stuffs is totes silly - i may even unregister mine. (that would be sirhcd in case anyone cares. its used for breaking stuff we make, damn sight easier than a live one when sorting out seating, and pushing off high platforms when bored. lives in a freebie container home when activated) The definition of 'stuff thats not cool' is why I still adore SL. Almost tempted to bother with the official forum - but thats a closed shop so why risk the mewling of the usual suspects

juicenot

@sirhc -- totes didnt unnerstan what ya said

Adeon

Entire estates will block bots as a gut-reaction, just because they can - which of course will stop personal use of bot accounts for private matters, until they simply register the account as a bot so they can continue using for personal use.

This is kinda stupid.

Scylla Rhiadra

I don't think the new rules are quite as "toothless" as this suggests. The new "scripted agent" policy and the separate notes on private data use spell out, for the first time, LL's attitude towards the exportation of in-world data to off-platform sites, viz:

"Second Life presents select information about Residents to each other within the Second Life environment. This presentation is for the sole purpose of facilitating interaction within Second Life. Without a separate agreement in place (for e.g. as a sub-processor or vendor), there is no default right that any third party has to collect, store, process, or transmit a Second Life Resident’s Personal Data outside of Second Life." (Emphasis mine)

No, that does not say in so many words that LL is going to come after you if you publish personal date for which you have not obtained a "separate agreement." And in 99% of cases, I'm sure they won't, because it won't be worth it. But it does mean that they can act if they decide that the operation in question poses enough of a threat to residents, or to LL's own legal position. To quote Soft Linden in the announcement thread for this on the SL Forums:

"But yes, the goal of a policy update is to give Linden Lab the ability to act based on documented standards."

How will they do that? By throttling the in-world capacity for that operation to gather data. Which is in essence exactly what they've just done to Bonnie Bots by these new rules, and most particularly by issuing a blanket ban on all bots in Bellisseria.

LL can't act directly against off-platform web sites, but it can eliminate their in-world presence, which is also the way in which they broke RedZone in 2011: not by having the RZ database removed, but rather by nuking its in-world operation.

And if you want an indication of how effective this kind of threat is likely to be, just look at how the Bonnie Bots web site has been slowly but surely eviscerated over the past couple of months.

As for the response of Bonnie Bots? Well, some of the posts have been removed and others bowdlerized, but Skyler Pancake was fairly eloquent about their feelings on forum thread.

I don't think they're very happy.

Iggy 1.0

Bonnie Bots could make my life as a seedy merchant in a pirate-themed RP sim a LOT more fun by having the Bots wear our meter and HUD. They could sail around in galleons full of RP coin while gathering data.

We'd swoop down upon them, shooting them with grape shot then running them through with cutlasses.

That's my 2 cents on Bots.

Joseph Lara

Thanks for such a pleasant post.

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