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Wednesday, November 15, 2023


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Moon Beerbaum

Personally, I think that there is nothing artistic about tools like MJ. An AI can only calculate on the base of data that needs to be fed first. That reference data base with billions of entries was filled with billions of stolen images (like the huge data breach via API on Flickr a few years ago). Otherwise an AI cannot calculate, it does not know what and on the basis of what, and towards what.

Do "artists" using such tools realize that their work, too, will be reassembled, reused, recalculated and comes with no copyright protection at all?

I loved Bryn Oh´s article about the matter, also, because she points out solutions:

Milena Carbone

Thank you for this article, which reflects my thoughts and my work very well. On the question of style, I'd like to add that Midjourney's latest "/tune" feature is incredibly powerful for creating and stabilizing your own style. It also shows the Midjourney team's concern to address artists and illustration professionals.

George Djorgovski

I think that Milena is exactly right. AI is not an artist - it is a tool than an artist can use, requiring new skills, but also everything they learned in the art school about the composition, colors, etc. The output image reflects the creativity of the person who wields that tool.

This also enables people who are creative and have something to express, but are physically unable to hold a painting brush or whatever, to express that latent creativity. Why would you want to exclude that pool of talent?

Let me also dispel the common misperception that generative AI copies individual artist's images. Its output is based on averaging of sorts of millions of images found on the Web, a vast majority of which are photographs produced by non-artists, and if any artist-generated images are included in the training data, it is a negligible fraction of it, and pretty much impossible to determine.

Certainly, artists should be paid for their work, but the burden should be on the people or companies who put copyrighted images on the Web, and there are tools to do that. Even before the generative AI, anyone who downloaded an image of your artwork that someone else posted on the Web is not liable. The party who posts copyrighted material without protection is.


In the realm of generative artificial intelligence art, the problem that you are talking to is, without a doubt, a critical worry. A great number of artificial intelligence models are trained on datasets that include copyrighted artwork without the express consent of the artists who created the artwork. In light of this ethical concerns about intellectual property and the rights of artists are brought to light.

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