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seph

Apple literally created and included the R1 chip in the Vision Pro to help eliminate motion sickness.

Generally VR headsets have improved a lot with higher refresh rates and resolutions that always help as well.

If you watch Youtube or Twitch streamers that play VR games, including women, you'll notice they aren't uncontrollably vomiting even after hours of highly involved gaming. The vast majority of users of good hardware are fine.

Motion sickness is and will always be an issue for a subset of users, but that subset has and will continue to become increasingly small as they use newer, better hardware. It's important not to clump Meta or Apple's newer headsets in with the original Oculus or Vive or worse, the slew of bad kickstarter headsets or abandoned Windows Mixed Reality headsets that came out.

The bar is the Quest 3 and Apple Vision Pro. What studies on motion sickness are there on those, and how have things improved vs. earlier generation VR/AR? There's a fairer and useful story to tell there if you're really interested!

Wagner James Au

> If you watch Youtube or Twitch streamers that play VR games, including women

The question isn't whether *some* women don't get nauseous in VR -- clearly women who are personally into VR enjoy many/most VR experiences just fine.

seph

"Anytime an article or news segment features images of women and girls happily enjoying an HMD experience, the media outlet is actively helping to obscure this extremely important, live topic."

Sorry, that made it sound like you were questioning whether women really do enjoy VR/AR headsets without getting nauseous.

If not then, what obscuring is happening? Motion sickness isn't something that came along with VR/AR. Nor studies showing it disproportionately effects women vs. men. A double digit percentage of humans are prone to motion sickness from anything that can cause it. Cars, boats, etc. Like those, all technology companies can do is mitigate it.

How well have Meta and Apple done with their most recent headsets? Any old articles on the problem from nearly 10 years ago don't apply except to hardware from that period. They aren't on shelves anymore.

Wagner James Au

This is all covered in the article/book, but there's been multiple studies showing that women very disproportionately suffer nausea in VR. The most noteworthy aspect (to me) is danah boyd's research, based on studies of trans people, pointing to a hormonal component to how we process 3D.

Ikarus3D

The incorporation of the R1 chip in the Apple Vision Pro aims to address motion sickness in VR, complementing advancements like higher refresh rates and resolutions. Watching VR streamers, including women, showcases improved user experiences with newer hardware, indicating a diminishing subset affected by motion sickness. Meta and Apple's latest headsets, like the Quest 3 and Vision Pro, represent significant progress compared to earlier VR/AR devices, warranting exploration of studies on motion sickness and highlighting advancements in user comfort and immersion.

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