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Monday, December 16, 2024

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Val Kendal

idk, I get my important SL and LL news from NWN for about 15 years now :)

Luther Weymann

IM's and note cards to everyone in SL from LL. Never capped. Not hard to do.

Joss

I always see emails from Linden Lab -- can't miss them in the Inbox. Would emailing residents with news and invitations not work?

Wagner James Au

IMs and notecards are easily lost in a deluge of IMs and notecards sent by other people, and they're cumbersome to transfer off the platform.

Email is even more challenging, since our inboxes are overwhelmed by SPAM. The open rate for a company-sent email is 15-20% *on a good day*.

Maxwell Graf

Email 1st, then repost to discord/bluesky. That should cover the majority.

tera jules

Personly i try not to use apps,though i have sl facebook group and got this message on that,im also on primfeed now,but i am one of those that dont read sl website,i click links on the loading screen of firestorm if its a interesting announcement,like RFL or SLB21 ETC.

Haridsam

Actually, I'm with Luther on this and was thinking the same myself. A notecard newsletter -- especially on a regular schedule, say the 1st of every month, or every Monday, or whatever, clearly subject-lined and marked (say) SL NEWS, so it's not canned or lost...but with a set frequency and labeling...I think we'd quickly get used to it and nost would read it. Of course, it needs to be compelling and newsy and interesting. :)

I still think a push notification on the app isn't a bad idea, but many won't use the app -- I certainly won't, don't need it.

The one common denominator is everyone logs in and gets IMs (which do get capped, though maybe LL can circumvent that) and NCs. It's an interesting challenge.

Maybe do both?

Ruth Resident

People don't pay attention to Second Life news because there's been no real news to be interested in. The Lindens tack some irrelevant feature on from time to time but at the end of the day it's still the same poorly performing platform. I guess since logins are down and people are dumping their regions like hotcakes they want a bigger megaphone. Try doing something with the platform if you want folks to show interest.

Glizzy_rizzler

I honestly loved being part of the Creator Zoom call the other day. The in-world meetings are the least productive, because no one can control the topics and pin point actual issues that need to be talked about. In the Zoom call, we were able to raise our hands and express that we wanted to talk about a certain subject and put valuable input. Reading an article about an update or something, and posting a comment doesnt make anyone feel like they are being heard.

Discord and Zoom calls directly with certain communities I think can help, since in-world groups and in-world communication is broken.

As a creator and store owner, I have found that no one even likes to read in SL anymore. People just click around till something happens. I have spent so much time in scripting things that lead a customer exactly to what they are looking for, because notecards and group notices go unread.
Someone would rather HEAR what they need to know, over reading and finding the information for themselves.

Beachy Piers

I've recently gotten much of my news on Bluesky where's there's a HUGE SL congregation.

Ava

The Bloggers Zoom call on the 6th had 52 people in it, definitely not hundreds.

Vic Mornington

I run a YouTube channel, i'm part of the SL blogger network, but I never got a single invite to any of these "calls". So it seems that Linden Lab is...once again...managing NOT to spread the word out to even all of the bloggers and only to people they like.

Sarah A

"I run a YouTube channel, i'm part of the SL blogger network, but I never got a single invite to any of these 'calls'" My guess is that maybe LL is actually more interested in trying to woo "key influencers" to like their keen new stuff than really reach the population.

The fact is that announcements can be sent through the login screen. It's been done in the past.

I think as long as LL entertains the fantasy of somehow, after all these years, being the "next big thing" and drawing "the kids" in, instead of keeping the lights on and being "Eve Online" or "Wow" - vintage games that still make money and have a decent playerbase, they're going to have failure after failure, as they have with PBR, which has simply lost a chunk of the playerbase that used older machines, while the people that show up at meetings and rant about needing new futures are nowhere to be seen and don't care.

The focus should be simple. MAKE THE WORLD WORK. Fix stuff that's broken. Is it expensive? Yes! Was PBR and the mobile app no one uses or will ever use expensive? YES!

Getting SL on Steam would have been ten times more useful than getting a mobile app, because it's a text driven world and people can't type on a phone so the only residents you're attracting is new people who will be snubbed and leave when the most they can contribute to a conversation in a club is "u look sxy."

Yes six people have phones with keyboards. yay.

FIX CHAT
FIX TELEPORTS
Create economies by curbing (not eliminating) bot activity and anything else that forces resource use for marginal gain.

LL needs to retain the player they already have rather than throwing them away to fish for new people that will never come. Clearly LL leadership does not understand "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush."

Sarah A

"I think Hari is right that push announcements on the mobile app may be the best (or least worst) way of reaching as many SLers as possible, since we're already accustomed to getting most of our news and updates via various mobile apps."

I think it's borderline delusive to think most residents care about the mobile app. Even if I could use it for a few admin functions (It doesn't support half of them), I couldn't actually talk to anyone in anything other than text speak.

Sure some people do supplement by "keeping in touch" on the phone. Lumiya is still a better app for that since, "keeping in touch" isn't really about seeing a badly rendered version of the world.

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