« Is This List of Sunsetted Virtual Worlds From Habitat On Missing Any Titles? | Main | Cajsa's Choices: "Wishing On Airplanes" is an Impressive New SL Flickr Photographer to Follow »

Tuesday, March 18, 2025

Comments

Feed You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.

EmptyEyes

Metaverses are weird beasts, outside of Fortnite, it feels like they refuse to compete with one another. They're like MMOs in that sense.

They cater very strongly to their existing communities and don't really try and change things too much for fear of upsetting those communities.

Trying to appeal to their "average" player only leads them to a slow death. They should be trying to capture as many diverse player groups as possible.

As you eluded to, social media sites understand this. The average is not truly mass market appeal. Mass market appeal is giving everyone exactly what they're looking for when they're looking for it.

In some mediums you just have to settle for the average, in others, like this space, you don't. If VR Chat, Roblox, Rec Room, Second Life all appeal to different niches then that means there's lots of room to grow. Take something from them all. They are clear targets that you can say "Hey I want to convert some of VR Chat's players" lets *add* x, y, and z to make that happen.

Fortnite does this. I don't play myself (it lacks deep home decorating, character customization, adult content, and RP that's competitive with SL), but you can do so many things in Fortnite. You can build if you want, you can race, you can fight, you can play Rockband, and so much more. There are so many niche audiences that it serves.

Also I'm not saying alienate your core audience. I'm saying that *if* you have the resources, you should grow your audience. Ensure your appeal doesn't drop to core users, appeal to new audiences as well, and then support them both.

Bonus points if you choose to grow into audiences that are at the intersection of large and easy to appeal to.

Holy chicken

The CEO of Second Life just taxes his users to death so they leave.
Private regions are on the decline in Second Life and the value of the Linden Dollar is weakening by the week.

Charging users 10% to buy some of your gamecoins so they can shop on your platform is utterly crazy.

Stabbing your large loyal customers who pay you tons of money to lease your private region products in the back is another giant mistake you wish to avoid.

Keep it up with your fees and taxes Linden Lab, you are getting less of them every single day.

The value of the Second Life platform is now so much less compared to the day the current owner bought it, all this comes forward from his stupid policies and greed.

Next month comes Platinum Premium where you can pay 1 Dollar per hour to stream Second Life in a browser compared to the regular 2 Dollar per hour normal premium members have to pay.

Dumb and dumber to utter stupidity.

There is always the mobile app where you can feel your phone heating up until your battery explodes. That will bring in the customers.

sirhc desantis

ser EmptyEyes makes some good points especially 'I'm not saying alienate your core audience'. Been in for ... 18 years (ach a third of my adult life and thats being generous) and been palming over a ton a year for close on a decade so I suppose rate as fairly 'core' for a noob.
And rightly, to paraphrase, appealing to different niches does == growth (with the caveat that SL can do anything to a point within limitations - yes we know - so can my adjustable spanner which I also love).

But right now the Lab seen to be setting those two aims in direct conflict. They are losing their core.

Lets see what we have had (not an exhaustive list).. Windlight to EEP, pathfinding, experiences, LSL updates (yay lots), PBR (I can view it but choose not to as its shite)..that small list could fall in to my 'niche'. And not one of them was done well.
And now - Lua (ho hum another box ticked for someone) and the latest Discord ongoing muckup. In realtime and it is hilarious.

I confess I am SLgrumpycore :) Not like there is anywhere else to go to that appeals. But there is only a certain amount of wall to throw at before you realise that nothing is sticking. So yes, a bit 'I hear Tom Wolfe is speaking at Lincoln Center' - and if you get that ref you are as old as I am.

Verify your Comment

Previewing your Comment

This is only a preview. Your comment has not yet been posted.

Working...
Your comment could not be posted. Error type:
Your comment has been posted. Post another comment

The letters and numbers you entered did not match the image. Please try again.

As a final step before posting your comment, enter the letters and numbers you see in the image below. This prevents automated programs from posting comments.

Having trouble reading this image? View an alternate.

Working...

Post a comment

Your Information

(Name is required. Email address will not be displayed with the comment.)

Thumb Wagner James Au Metaverse book
Wagner James "Hamlet" Au
Virtual_worlds_museum_NWN
Join a Growing Community Devoted to Virtual Worlds!
Dutchie SL PBR pool
Get Dutchie's new pool with sound effects, PBR, 100+ couple/solo animations!
Wagner James Au Patreon
Making a Metaverse That Matters Wagner James Au ad
Please buy my book!
IMG_2468
My book on Goodreads!
Wagner James Au AAE Speakers Metaverse
Request me as a speaker!
Making of Second Life 20th anniversary Wagner James Au Thumb
PC for SL
Recommended PC for SL
Macbook Second Life
Recommended Mac for SL
my site ... ... ...
ADD store SLurl
Visit ADD's SL mainstore, creator of sexy styles you want to wear!
Dream Seeker estates SL
Competitive rental rates, 24/7 English, Spanish & Dutch support -- visit online or in SL!
Intellivision game console book Tom Boellstorff Braxton Soderman
Get the latest book from the author of "Coming of Age in Second Life"!
Meow Meow Making SL flowers
An SL flower shop for all occasions!
Vmuseum NWN Ad
Click to visit all four sites!
Rapture
Original SL mesh fashion since 2014
Second Life virtual world coffee table book
Coffee table book available now -- click above!
Juicybomb_EEP ad

Classic New World Notes stories:

Woman With Parkinson's Reports Significant Physical Recovery After Using Second Life - Academics Researching (2013)

We're Not Ready For An Era Where People Prefer Virtual Experiences To Real Ones -- But That Era Seems To Be Here (2012)

Sander's Villa: The Man Who Gave His Father A Second Life (2011)

What Rebecca Learned By Being A Second Life Man (2010)

Charles Bristol's Metaverse Blues: 87 Year Old Bluesman Becomes Avatar-Based Musician In Second Life (2009)

Linden Limit Libertarianism: Metaverse community management illustrates the problems with laissez faire governance (2008)

The Husband That Eshi Made: Metaverse artist, grieving for her dead husband, recreates him as an avatar (2008)

Labor Union Protesters Converge On IBM's Metaverse Campus: Leaders Claim Success, 1850 Total Attendees (Including Giant Banana & Talking Triangle) (2007)

All About My Avatar: The story behind amazing strange avatars (2007)

Fighting the Front: When fascists open an HQ in Second Life, chaos and exploding pigs ensue (2007)

Copying a Controversy: Copyright concerns come to the Metaverse via... the CopyBot! (2006)

The Penguin & the Zookeeper: Just another unlikely friendship formed in The Metaverse (2006)

"—And He Rezzed a Crooked House—": Mathematician makes a tesseract in the Metaverse — watch the videos! (2006)

Guarding Darfur: Virtual super heroes rally to protect a real world activist site (2006)

The Skin You're In: How virtual world avatar options expose real world racism (2006)

Making Love: When virtual sex gets real (2005)

Watching the Detectives: How to honeytrap a cheater in the Metaverse (2005)

The Freeform Identity of Eboni Khan: First-hand account of the Black user experience in virtual worlds (2005)

Man on Man and Woman on Woman: Just another gender-bending avatar love story, with a twist (2005)

The Nine Souls of Wilde Cunningham: A collective of severely disabled people share the same avatar (2004)

Falling for Eddie: Two shy artists divided by an ocean literally create a new life for each other (2004)

War of the Jessie Wall: Battle over virtual borders -- and real war in Iraq (2003)

Home for the Homeless: Creating a virtual mansion despite the most challenging circumstances (2003)

Newstex_Author_Badge-Color 240px
JuicyBomb_NWN5 SL blog
Ava Delaney SL Blog